Great! Might come up with some more European only cards.tryst wrote:I'm cracking a box of M12 next week. Hopefully, I can help.
Good news first. I confirm that the 120 US guys are probably as you suppose. I am still missing 9, but I don't have any extraneous ones appearing from here in Hong Kong.mystical_tutor wrote:I updated my 2012 sheet with the info from effai.
I would like to include all EU combos on the sheet if any of you have more information--or better yet the cards themselves for a trade.
The one I show with an x in it (Pentavite/More than a TCG) has not been found again. I may have made a mistake on this as it was hectic at the pre-release (I was playing too).anselan wrote:Good news first. I confirm that the 120 US guys are probably as you suppose. I am still missing 9, but I don't have any extraneous ones appearing from here in Hong Kong.
Is my set in the mail???? JK. I have extra US if he/you want to trade.anselan wrote:Secondly, I have met another saddo here who is also a collector of front/backs, and he says he has lots of spare ones.
That would be great. Best of luck on finding one. The closest I have come here is a singles dealer that sorts out his t/t cards and sells them. He does let me go through “looking for something I don’t have” but that is the extent of it. Thus I wait till I have as many as I can get before bothering him.anselan wrote:On the debit side, I have a bunch of EU ones, and although there are definitely some US mixed in (sigh my eyesight is not as good as it was for distinguishing light and dark edges) but definitely there are at least 44 which are not in the US lot.
An initial guess might be that there are about 120 in each set, with an overlap of about 60. This would leave about 80 combos which don't occur on either.
We basically need a friendly dealer in US and another in EU, who are willing to set aside a whole bunch of the tips & tokens they open to allow us to analyze each set once and for all. This amateur business is rarely good enough. But if we had 12 boxes worth, I reckon we would have a good idea for each set.
LOL I must admit that I have no idea if any US ones are upside down---at first I thought they all were.anselan wrote:Another feature is that 2 of the images in the EU lot are upside down. These are Garruk - The Ultimate Introduction, and Casual Formats - All Things Magic.
No you were accurate in your records - I have got one but only one. I will keep my eyes peeled for another.mystical_tutor wrote: The one I show with an x in it (Pentavite/More than a TCG) has not been found again. I may have made a mistake on this as it was hectic at the pre-release (I was playing too).
Found one, thanks for the confirmation and offer.anselan wrote:No you were accurate in your records - I have got one but only one. I will keep my eyes peeled for another.
ok, so it's just the back is different, nothing to be worry about :)caquaa wrote:they promote the judge program on the backside.effai wrote:what are these wolf token prerelease ? Are they somehow different ?
Andy; I think I can get you the two pre-release tokens. I just hadn't been looking for any but I'm sure the folks here will trade them for regular wolf tokens and I KNOW they would trade them for Chinese tokens.....anselan wrote:i also figure since i'm in Hong Kong i should try to pick up as many Chinese T&T as i can. maybe i will be able to trade for some of these absurd pre-release wolves.andy
There were two different versions of the Wolf token given out as promotional??? hmm, have to look at the two I got at the pre-release to see which one(s) I got.mystical_tutor wrote:Here is the Innistrad sheet as it stands now.
I wasn't sure how to handle the two wolf tokens given out at pre-release but because they are tokens and they are from this set I included them here. I think that they technically belong with pre-release cards on the board though.
[yes, I know that opinion is held by only a few and they will probably end up under the "token" section never to be found again.]
Please let me know what else you all find and if European English is different.
Yum, data! Data!Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote: hehe when my two cases arrive
Hmm, when I'm done opening the boxes, I'll count up the quantity of each and let you know which Uncommon I got the most of.anselan wrote:Is there any chance that you could record the order of the uncommons in each booster in order? I am interested to know how WotC get 60 different uncommons out of presumably just one sheet of 121 uncommon cards.Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote: hehe when my two cases arrive
As far as the T&T are concerned, I guess there is a single queue, since randomness is not an issue :o) but I would be interested to confirm (1) what the order of the cards is in the queue (2) which T&T front/back combos are really R1, and which are R2 or more.
Any chance you could help?
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