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Looking for print sheet images... for science! (to fix rarities on the Internet)

Post by juzamefreet » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:19 am

EDIT: As the other sheets are likely not out there, I've got everything I need. Thanks all!

Hello Magic Librarians,

As I'm sure all of you are well-aware, back in the good old days cards could have sub-rarities: Common 4 was four times as common as Common 1. I recently discovered (and was surprised to find) that there is no accurate record of these rarities on the Internet! At least from the sources one would expect.
  • The spoiler lists that Wizards posted to Usenet are inaccurate in some places [1] and incomplete in others [2]
  • MagicCards.info reports to have this information, but it is also inaccurate in many instances. [3]
  • Gatherer long ago contained this information, but at some point retroactively re-assigned rarities to do away with the repetition count (U1 became Rare, C1 occasionally became Uncommon). The original data likely comes from the spoiler lists, which are again, inaccurate.
  • mtgjson, the new-ish comprehensive card database, never had repetition counts, and is sourced from Gatherer in most instances (so it also has some bad data.)
For the sake of brevity, I won't list all the errors I found. See the footnotes for a few examples, but there are plenty more. I started down this path a few months ago when, as a mini-project, I decided to try and submit changes to mtgjson to fix the rarities for older sets that follow this pattern. I wrote a bit of code that pulled the information from the original spoiler text files. Before submitting, I performed some sanity checks to cross-reference magiccards.info and sum up the print sheet sizes. That's when I noticed that many things did not line up, and started down a new path...

Not being able to trust the closest thing I had to a primary source, one must go to the only truly reliable source: the print sheets. I've been able to find a few from ebay auctions or random websites [4], but some of them still elude me. That's where I'm hoping you all can help. If you happen to own any of the following sheets, or have pictures of them, I'd very much appreciate that you post them here. It will put me on the way to verifying the information that I have and providing what information I don't.

I've managed to find sheets for Antiquities, The Dark, Fallen Empires, Legends, Beta (Uncommon only - Low Quality), and Chronicles (Uncommon only).

Here's what I still need (if they even exist!):
  • Alpha - Rare (What was in Volcanic Island's place?)
  • Alpha - Common (What was in CoP: Black's place?)
  • Beta - Rare FOUND- Thanks!
  • Beta - Common FOUND- Thanks!
  • Chronicles - Common FOUND- Thanks!
  • Arabian Nights - Uncommon
  • Arabian Nights - Common
  • Homelands - Common FOUND- Thanks!
  • Homelands - Uncommon FOUND- Thanks!
  • Alliances - Common FOUND- Thanks!
  • Alliances - Uncommon FOUND- Thanks!
  • Alliances - Rare FOUND- Thanks!
I -think- that should cover everything. If you have any of these, please post here. High quality images are preferred, as I'll need to be able to identify the cards and art easily.

My goal is to submit this information to be included in mtgjson, which many sites now use as a backend card database, and is among the better sources of information available today. I will additionally submit fixes to magiccards.info; I tried once and never heard back/saw changes on the site, but that doesn't mean I won't try again :-).

Thanks in advance! -JZ

[1] Unholy Citadel and Seafarer's Quay are universally reported to be U2. But if the spoiler is to be believed, then the Legends uncommon sheet would have 123 cards - obviously wrong. Inspecting the sheet shows that these are in fact U1, just like the others in the cycle; everyone is wrong in this case. In Homelands, the setlist and spoiler (both published by Wizards) disagree for many cards.
[2] In Alliances, the same cards have multiple arts by the same artist, but different rarities and the setlist/spoiler do not point out which is which.
[3] ATQ Strip Mine's are all over the map and magiccards.info incorrectly reports the Tower as C1 and No Horizon as U1 (which is backwards: they are all C1 except Tower which is U1).
[4] Some on this site, but unfortunately the image links were gone

EDIT: Mark found sheets, and again.
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Post by dragsamou » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:24 am

Hi and welcome

To my knowledge Alpha and Arabian Nights uncut sheets pics are nowhere to be found. Let me try to help with few others but don't expect HQ, but that's better than nothing:

Beta Rares

Image

Beta Commons

Image

Chronicles Commons

Image

Chronicles Uncommons

Image

Homelands Uncommons

Image

Homelands Commons

Image

Alliances Commons

Image

Image

Image

Image

Looking if I have more somewhere...

According to Gamepedia:
http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Print_sheet

One link to be verified:
http://www.quadibloc.com/math/dioprint.htm
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Post by juzamefreet » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:25 pm

Thank you very much, dragsamou! The resolution in these images is just fine. And the links are great references for comparison with my final numbers - I will definitely look into that.

Shame about Alpha and Arabian Nights, though it's not surprising with such limited runs. I believe that what I have through Legends is correct, but it would be nice to be able to prove it definitively (and archive the source material online somewhere). At this point, the current questions are primarily around Chronicles, Alliances, and Homelands (thanks again for those!). For Alpha, I really only want to know what are in the slots for the two missing cards from that set (I think I read somewhere that it was an Island for Volcanic -- which Island though?) assuming it was otherwise identical to the Beta sheets. I'd like to get the rarities for the basic lands correct among other things.

Thanks again!

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Post by dragsamou » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:10 am

juzamefreet wrote:Thank you very much, dragsamou! The resolution in these images is just fine. And the links are great references for comparison with my final numbers - I will definitely look into that.
My pleasure
juzamefreet wrote:Shame about Alpha and Arabian Nights, though it's not surprising with such limited runs.
Yes, a lot of collectors would love to see pics of the sheets
juzamefreet wrote: I believe that what I have through Legends is correct, but it would be nice to be able to prove it definitively (and archive the source material online somewhere).
I confirm that Unholy Citadel and Seafarer's Quay are U1. From Legends Uncommons sheet and Italian Legends Uncommons sheet (cards are not placed the same way on the Italian Sheets). In the future, there will be eventually a subsection about Uncut sheets.
juzamefreet wrote: At this point, the current questions are primarily around Chronicles, Alliances, and Homelands (thanks again for those!).
I will try to see if the missing pics are available somewhere through some contacts. I don't collect or own Uncut sheets
juzamefreet wrote: For Alpha, I really only want to know what are in the slots for the two missing cards from that set (I think I read somewhere that it was an Island for Volcanic -- which Island though?) assuming it was otherwise identical to the Beta sheets. I'd like to get the rarities for the basic lands correct among other things.
Thanks again!
For Alpha , Circle of Protection: Black and Volcanic Island were omitted, and there was only 2 illustrations for the Basic Lands (3 in Beta)

I retrieved some info from 2005 about Alpha , Arabian Nights and Legends from old times members:
There are 4 "RARE" Islands on the Beta and Unlimited Sheets, 5 on Alpha. 1 of the Alpha Islands was supposed to be the rare dual land Volcanic Island.

There are 26 Lands on the Uncommon Sheet broken down as 2 Islands, 6 Swamps, 6 Plains, 6 Mountains, 6 Forests.

There are 41 Lands on the Beta and Unlimited Sheets broken down as 10 Islands, 9 Swamps, 8 Plains, 10 Mountains, 9 Forests. There is one additional land on the Alpha Common sheet that took the spot of the C.O.P Black.
For Arabian Nights, there are 7 levels of rarity (U2, U3, U4, C1, C4, C5, C11), corresponding to the number of times a particular card appears on a sheet. The U3 and C1 levels are identical in frequency. A booster had 2 Uncommons (U2, U3, U4 or C1) and 6 Commons (C4, C5, or C11).

- 33 U2 cards
- 17 U3 cards
- 1 C1 card (Mountain)
- 1 U4 card (Oasis)
- 16 C4 cards
- 9 C5 cards
- 1 C11 card (Desert)
Arabian Nights had a total of two print sheets - Common and Uncommons. Here are the breakdowns of each of the print sheets (Courtesy of http://www.crystalkeep.com):

COMMON:

BLACK

Cuombajj Witches
Kaja Foglio
C4

Erg Raiders (a)
Dameon Willich
C3

Erg Raiders (b)
Dameon Willich
C2

Hasran Ogress (a)
Dan Frazier
C3

Hasran Ogress (b)
Dan Frazier
C2

Oubliette (a)
Douglas Shuler
C2

Oubliette (b)
Douglas Shuler
C2

Stone-Throwing Devils (a)
Ken Meyer, Jr.
C3

Stone-Throwing Devils (b)
Ken Meyer, Jr.
C1

BLUE

Dandan
Drew Tucker
C4

Fishliver Oil (a)
Anson Maddocks
C3

Fishliver Oil (b)
Anson Maddocks
C1

Flying Men
Christopher Rush
C5

Giant Tortoise (a)
Kaja Foglio
C3

Giant Tortoise (b)
Kaja Foglio
C1

Unstable Mutation
Douglas Shuler
C5

GREEN

Ghazban Ogre
Jesper Myrfors
C4

Metamorphosis
Christopher Rush
C4

Nafs Asp (a)
Christopher Rush
C3

Nafs Asp (b)
Christopher Rush
C2

Sandstorm
Brian Snoddy
C4

Wyluli Wolf (a)
Susan Van Camp
C4

Wyluli Wolf (b)
Susan Van Camp
C1

RED

Bird Maiden (a)
Kaja Foglio
C2

Bird Maiden (b)
Kaja Foglio
C2

Desert Nomads
Christopher Rush
C4

Hurr Jackal
Drew Tucker
C4

Kird Ape
Ken Meyer, Jr.
C5

Rukh Egg (a)
Christopher Rush
C3

Rukh Egg (b)
Christopher Rush
C1

WHITE

Army of Allah (a)
Brian Snoddy
C3

Army of Allah (b)
Brian Snoddy
C1

Camel
Sandra Everingham
C5

Moorish Cavalry (a)
Dameon Willich
C4

Moorish Cavalry (b)
Dameon Willich
C1

Piety (a)
Mark Poole
C3

Piety (b)
Mark Poole
C1

War Elephant (a)
Kristen Bishop
C3

War Elephant (b)
Kristen Bishop
C1

LAND

Desert
Jesper Myrfors
C11

Mountain
Douglas Shuler
C1

Total: 121 Cards

UNCOMMON:

BLACK

El-Hajjaj
Dameon Willich
U2

Guardian Beast
Ken Meyer, Jr.
U2

Junun Efreet
Christopher Rush
U2

Juzam Djinn
Mark Tedin
U2

Khabal Ghoul
Douglas Shuler
U3

Sorceress Queen
Kaja Foglio
U3

BLUE

Island Fish Jasconius
Jesper Myrfors
U2

Merchant Ship
Tom Wanerstrand
U3

Old Man of the Sea
Susan Van Camp
U2

Serendib Djinn
Anson Maddocks
U2

Serendib Efreet
Anson Maddocks
U2

Sindbad
Julie Baroh
U3

GREEN

Cyclone
Mark Tedin
U3

Desert Twister
Susan Van Camp
U3

Drop of Honey
Anson Maddocks
U2

Erhnam Djinn
Ken Meyer, Jr.
U2

Ifh-Biff Efreet
Jesper Myrfors
U2

Singing Tree
Rob Alexander
U2

RED

Aladdin
Julie Baroh
U2

Ali Baba
Julie Baroh
U3

Ali from Cairo
Mark Poole
U2

Magnetic Mountain
Susan Van Camp
U3

Mijae Djinn
Susan Van Camp
U2

Ydwen Efreet
Drew Tucker
U2

WHITE

Abu Ja'far
Ken Meyer, Jr.
U3

Eye for an Eye
Mark Poole
U3

Jihad
Brian Snoddy
U2

King Suleiman
Mark Poole
U2

Repentant Blacksmith
Drew Tucker
U2

Shahrazad
Kaja Foglio
U2

ARTIFACTS

Aladdin's Lamp
Mark Tedin
U2

Aladdin's Ring
Dan Frazier
U2

Bottle of Suleiman
Jesper Myrfors
U2

Brass Man
Christopher Rush
U3

City in a Bottle
Drew Tucker
U2

Dancing Scimitar
Anson Maddocks
U2

Ebony Horse
Dameon Willich
U2

Flying Carpet
Mark Tedin
U3

Jandor's Ring
Dan Frazier
U2

Jandor's Saddlebags
Dameon Willich
U2

Jeweled Bird
Amy Weber
U3

Pyramids
Amy Weber
U2

Ring of Ma'ruf
Dan Frazier
U2

Sandals of Abdallah
Dan Frazier
U3

LAND

Bazaar of Baghdad
Jeff A. Menges
U3

City of Brass
Mark Tedin
U3

Diamond Valley
Brian Snoddy
U2

Elephant Graveyard
Rob Alexander
U2

Island of Wak-Wak
Douglas Shuler
U2

Library of Alexandria
Mark Poole
U3

Oasis
Brian Snoddy
U4

Total: 121 cards

It stands to reason that the Arabian Nights sheets were eleven-by-eleven - unlike the eleven-by-ten sheets of today. There certainly were some Commons that were more Common than others - there were eleven copies of Desert for every one copy of Mountain on the Common print sheet! Likewise, there are two copies of Oasis in existence to every one copy of Juzam Djinn.
For Legends:
121 R1 cards
107 U1 cards
7 U2 cards
29 C1 cards
46 C2 cards
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Post by Samite Healer » Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:51 pm

Chronicles Common Sheet

Image

Chronicles Uncommon Sheet

Image

Chronicles Uncommon Sheet - Top part of sheet

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Alliances Rare Sheet

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Alliances Rare Sheet - Top part of sheet

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Alliances Uncommon Sheet

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Post by juzamefreet » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:42 am

Well that was fast. Thank you very much, Samite Healer!

EDIT: Forgot to mention: That about does it... Unless anyone has any more useful information, I've got what I wanted. I will posted updates to this thread when I've had a chance to go through everything and submit with any findings on further errors. Thanks again!

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Post by dragsamou » Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:06 am

juzamefreet wrote:Well that was fast. Thank you very much, Samite Healer!

EDIT: Forgot to mention: That about does it... Unless anyone has any more useful information, I've got what I wanted. I will posted updates to this thread when I've had a chance to go through everything and submit with any findings on further errors. Thanks again!
Yes, my friend Samite Healer is always of great help when I ask pics or info about Print sheets for the website. Please let us know about the results or if you need further info.
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Post by cataclysm80 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:53 pm

Glad that you found what you were looking for.

I've also heard that the Alpha sheet layout is identical to Beta except that Volcanic Island & COP: Black are basic Islands. (I'm not sure which art.)

Jim Bruso has seen Arabian sheets at Carta Mundi Belgium. It was a long time ago, but also several years after they were made, so clearly they were being saved and hopefully still exist somewhere. No pictures though unfortunately.
I know of a misprint collector that is trying to reassemble the sheet layout using miscut cards.

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Post by dragsamou » Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:14 pm

I noticed already one major problem with Alliances Uncommons while I checked all of them on the 10 X 11 Print sheet:

In Gatherer Gorilla Shaman both versions are listed as Commons:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... rseid=3171

In the Wizards check list one is a U3 (Version 1) while the other one is a U2 (Version 2), but they are both U3 in fact.
http://archive.wizards.com/magic/generi ... cklist.txt

I'm almost done verifying the Commons. There's one problem with the Whites ones, 19 on the check list but 20 on the print sheet, meaning one C1 is a C2 in fact, and it's Kjeldoran Escort (v. 1) ...
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Post by dragsamou » Sun May 01, 2016 8:53 am

Hi

I have done Alliances, for you to double check and rename at your taste the cards with sama names and Artists :

Magiclibrarities fixed list
Alliances Card List
(Released June 10th, 1996)

199 Cards Total (8 Lands, 26 Artifacts, 10 Multicolor, 31 White, 31 Green,
31 Red, 31 Black, 31 Blue)

Explanation of Rarity: the number after the rarity (e.g.: Common 1),
means that that card appears that many times on the print sheet.

3 Print sheets 10 X 11 = 330 cards

C1 = 90
C2 = 20
U2 = 80
U3 = 30
R2 = 98
R6 = 12

*Fixed Rarity

Description of the card Same Art/Artist but different Rarity

Black 20 COMMONS (16 C1 4 C2) 18 UNCOMMONS (12 U2 6 U3) 10 RARES (R2)

Balduvian Dead Mike Kimble U2
Casting of Bones (v. 1) Anson Maddocks C1
Casting of Bones (v. 2) Anson Maddocks C1
Contagion Mike Raabe U2
Diseased Vermin Scott Kirschner U2
Dystopia Ruth Thompson R2
Fatal Lore Lawrence Snelly R2
Feast or Famine (v.1) Pete Venters U3
Feast or Famine (v. 2) Pete Venters U3
Fevered Strength (v. 1) Brian Snoddy C2 Kolbjörn Flavor Text
Fevered Strength (v. 2) Brian Snoddy C1 Halvor Harensson Flavor Text
Insidious Bookworms (v. 1) Greg Simanson C1
Insidious Bookworms (v. 2) Greg Simanson C1
Keeper of Tresserhorn Z. Plucinski and D.A. Gregory R2
Krovikan Horror Christopher Rush R2
Krovikan Plague Liz Danforth U2
Lim-Dûl's High Guard (v. 1) Anson Maddocks C1
Lim-Dûl's High Guard (v. 2) Anson Maddocks C1
Misinformation Richard Kane Ferguson U2
Phantasmal Fiend (v. 1) Scott Kirschner C1
Phantasmal Fiend (v. 2) Scott Kirschner C1
Phyrexian Boon (v. 1) Mark Tedin C1
Phyrexian Boon (v. 2) Mark Tedin C1
Ritual of the Machine Anson Maddocks R2
Soldevi Adnate (v. 1) Christopher Rush C1
Soldevi Adnate (v. 2) Christopher Rush C1
Stench of Decay (v. 1) Heather Hudson C1
Stench of Decay (v. 2) Heather Hudson C1
Stromgald Spy Zak Plucinski U2 OK
Swamp Mosquito (v. 1) Nicola Leonard C2 Mosquito and Rocks
Swamp Mosquito (v. 2) Nicola Leonard C1 Mosquito Trees reflection in water

Blue 20 COMMONS (16 C1 4 C2) 18 UNCOMMONS (12 U2 6 U3) 10 RARES (R2)

Arcane Denial (v. 1) Richard Kane Ferguson C1
Arcane Denial (v. 2) Richard Kane Ferguson C1
Awesome Presence (v. 1) Lawrence Snelly C1
Awesome Presence (v. 2) Lawrence Snelly C1
Benthic Explorers (v. 1) Greg Simanson C1
Benthic Explorers (v. 2) Greg Simanson C1
Browse Phil Foglio U2 OK
Diminishing Returns L.A. Williams R2
False Demise (v. 1) Randy Gallegos U3
False Demise (v. 2) Randy Gallegos U3
Force of Will Terese Nielsen U2
Foresight (v. 1) Terese Nielsen C1
Foresight (v. 2) Terese Nielsen C1
Lat-Nam's Legacy (v. 1) Tom Wänerstrand C1
Lat-Nam's Legacy (v. 2) Tom Wänerstrand C1
Library of Lat-Nam Alan Rabinowitz R2
Phantasmal Sphere Mark Tedin R2
Soldevi Heretic (v.1) Mike Kimble C1
Soldevi Heretic (v. 2) Mike Kimble C1
Soldevi Sage (v. 1) Carol Heyer C2 Arcum Dagsson Flavor Text
Soldevi Sage (v. 2) Carol Heyer C1 Sorine Relicbane Flavor Text
Spiny Starfish Alan Rabinowitz U2
Storm Crow (v. 1) Sandra Everingham C2 Lovisa Coldeyes Flavor Text
Storm Crow (v. 2) Sandra Everingham C1 Arna Kennerüd Flavor Text
Storm Elemental John Matson U2
Suffocation L.A. Williams U2
Thought Lash Mark Tedin R2
Tidal Control Randy Gallegos R2
Viscerid Armor (v. 1) Heather Hudson C1
Viscerid Armor (v. 2) Heather Hudson C1
Viscerid Drone Heather Hudson U2

Green 20 COMMONS (16 C1 4 C2) 18 UNCOMMONS (12 U2 6 U3) 10 RARES (R2)

Bounty of the Hunt Jeff A. Menges U2
Deadly Insect (v. 1) Scott Kirschner U3
Deadly Insect (v. 2) Scott Kirschner U3
Elvish Bard Susan Van Camp U2
Elvish Ranger (v. 1) Terese Nielsen C1
Elvish Ranger (v. 2) Terese Nielsen C1
Elvish Spirit Guide Julie Baroh U2
Fyndhorn Druid (v. 1) Rob Alexander C1
Fyndhorn Druid (v. 2) Rob Alexander C1
Gargantuan Gorilla Greg Simanson R2
Gift of the Woods (v. 1) Susan Van Camp C1
Gift of the Woods (v. 2) Susan Van Camp C1
Gorilla Berserkers (v. 1) John Matson C2 Taaveti of Kelsinko Flavor Text
Gorilla Berserkers (v. 2) John Matson C1 Jaheul Carthalion Flavor Text
Gorilla Chieftain (v. 1) Quinton Hoover C1
Gorilla Chieftain (v. 2) Quinton Hoover C1
Hail Storm Jeff A. Menges U2
Kaysa Rebecca Guay R2
Nature's Chosen Rebecca Guay U2
Nature's Wrath Liz Danforth R2
Splintering Wind Ron Spencer R2
Taste of Paradise (v. 1) Lawrence Snelly C2 Woman laying down on the ground
Taste of Paradise (v. 2) Lawrence Snelly C1 Red hair woman
Tornado Susan Van Camp R2
Undergrowth (v. 1) Pat Morrissey C1
Undergrowth (v. 2) Pat Morrissey C1
Whip Vine (v. 1) L.A. Williams C1
Whip Vine (v. 2) L.A. Williams C1
Yavimaya Ancients (v. 1) Quinton Hoover C1
Yavimaya Ancients (v. 2) Quinton Hoover C1
Yavimaya Ants Pat Morrissey U2

Red 20 COMMONS (16 C1 4 C2) 18 UNCOMMONS (12 U2 6 U3) 10 RARES (R2)

Agent of Stromgald (v. 1) Alan Rabinowitz C1
Agent of Stromgald (v. 2) Alan Rabinowitz C1
Balduvian Horde Brian Snoddy R2
Balduvian War-Makers (v. 1) Mike Kimble C1
Balduvian War-Makers (v. 2) Mike Kimble C1
Bestial Fury (v. 1) Mike Raabe C2 Black Back
Bestial Fury (v. 2) Mike Raabe C1 Green Back
Burnout Mike Raabe U2
Chaos Harlequin Alan Rabinowitz R2
Death Spark Mark Tedin U2
Enslaved Scout (v. 1) Rebecca Guay C1
Enslaved Scout (v. 2) Rebecca Guay C1
Gorilla Shaman (v. 1) Anthony Waters U3
Gorilla Shaman (v. 2) Anthony Waters *U3
Gorilla War Cry (v. 1) Bryon Wackwitz C1
Gorilla War Cry (v. 2) Bryon Wackwitz C1
Guerrilla Tactics (v. 1) Randy Asplund-Faith C2 Soldier with 4 trees
Guerrilla Tactics (v. 2) Randy Asplund-Faith C1 Soldier with rocks
Omen of Fire Pete Venters R2
Pillage Richard Kane Ferguson U2
Primitive Justice Anthony Waters U2
Pyrokinesis Ron Spencer U2
Rogue Skycaptain Randy Asplund-Faith R2
Soldier of Fortune Douglas Shuler U2
Storm Shaman (v. 2) Carol Heyer C1
Varchild's Crusader (v. 1) Mark Poole C1
Varchild's Crusader (v. 2) Mark Poole C1
Varchild's War-Riders Susan Van Camp R2
Veteran's Voice (v. 2) Andi Rusu C1

White 20 COMMONS (16 C1 4 C2) 18 UNCOMMONS (12 U2 6 U3) 10 RARES (R2)

Carrier Pigeons (v. 1) Pat Morrissey C1
Carrier Pigeons (v. 2) Pat Morrissey C1
Errand of Duty (v. 1) Julie Baroh C1
Errand of Duty (v. 2) Julie Baroh C1
Exile Rob Alexander R2
Inheritance Kaja Foglio U2
Ivory Gargoyle Quinton Hoover R2
Juniper Order Advocate Douglas Shuler U2
Kjeldoran Escort (v. 1) Bryon Wackwitz *C2 King Darien Flavor Text
Kjeldoran Escort (v. 2) Bryon Wackwitz C1 Lovisa Coldeyes Flavor Text
Kjeldoran Home Guard Andi Rusu U2
Kjeldoran Pride (v. 1) Kaja Foglio C1
Kjeldoran Pride (v. 2) Kaja Foglio C1
Martyrdom (v. 1) Mark Poole C1
Martyrdom (v. 2) Mark Poole C1
Noble Steeds (v. 1) Rebecca Guay C1
Noble Steeds (v. 2) Rebecca Guay C1
Reinforcements (v. 1) Diana Vick C1
Reinforcements (v. 2) Diana Vick C1
Reprisal (v. 1) Randy Asplund-Faith U3
Reprisal (v. 2) Randy Asplund-Faith U3
Royal Decree Pete Venters R2
Royal Herbalist (v. 1) Douglas Shuler C1
Royal Herbalist (v. 2) Douglas Shuler C1
Scars of the Veteran Dan Frazier U2
Seasoned Tactician Dan Frazier U2
Sustaining Spirit Rebecca Guay R2
Sworn Defender D. Alexander Gregory R2
Unlikely Alliance Phil Foglio U2
Wild Aesthir (v. 1) Greg Simanson C2 Arna Kennerüd Flavor Text
Wild Aesthir (v. 2) Greg Simanson C1 General Varchild Flavor Text

Artifact 10 COMMONS (C1) 8 UNCOMMONS (U2) 36 RARES (24 R2 12 R6)

Aesthir Glider (v. 1) Ruth Thompson C1
Aesthir Glider (v. 2) Ruth Thompson C1
Ashnod's Cylix Nicola Leonard R2
Astrolabe (v. 1) Amy Weber C1
Astrolabe (v. 2) Amy Weber C1
Floodwater Dam Randy Gallegos R2
Gustha's Scepter Sandra Everingham R2
Helm of Obedience Brian Snoddy R2
Lodestone Bauble Douglas Shuler R2
Mishra's Groundbreaker Randy Gallegos U2
Mystic Compass Amy Weber U2
Phyrexian Devourer Mark Tedin R2
Phyrexian Portal Pete Venters R2
Phyrexian War Beast (v. 1) Bill Sienkiewicz C1
Phyrexian War Beast (v. 2) Bill Sienkiewicz C1
Scarab of the Unseen Sandra Everingham U2
Shield Sphere Alan Rabinowitz U2
Sol Grail Christopher Rush R6
Soldevi Digger Amy Weber R2
Soldevi Sentry (v. 1) Alan Rabinowitz C1
Soldevi Sentry (v. 2) Alan Rabinowitz C1
Soldevi Steam Beast (v. 1) Bill Sienkiewicz C1
Soldevi Steam Beast (v. 2) Bill Sienkiewicz C1
Storm Cauldron Dan Frazier R2
Urza's Engine Greg Simanson R6
Whirling Catapult Dan Frazier R6

Land 2 UNCOMMONS (U2) 14 RARES (R2)

Balduvian Trading Post Tom Wänerstrand R2
Kjeldoran Outpost Jeff A. Menges R2
Lake of the Dead Pete Venters R2
School of the Unseen Pat Morrissey U2
Sheltered Valley Rob Alexander R2
Soldevi Excavations Liz Danforth R2
Thawing Glaciers Jeff A. Menges R2

Multicolor 10 UNCOMMONS (U2) 10 RARES (R2)

Energy Arc Terese Nielsen U2
Lim-Dûl's Paladin Christopher Rush U2
Lim-Dûl's Vault Rob Alexander U2
Lord of Tresserhorn Anson Maddocks R2
Misfortune Ron Spencer R2
Nature's Blessing Sandra Everingham U2
Phelddagrif Amy Weber R2
Surge of Strength Ruth Thompson U2
Wandering Mage Pete Venters R2
Winter's Night Rob Alexander R2
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Re: Looking for print sheet images... for science! (to fix rarities on the Internet)

Post by juzamefreet » Thu May 05, 2016 10:42 pm

Thank you very much dragsamou! Must have been a bit of work :-D . And it's not at all surprising to find more errors at this point, only surprised that they've persisted so long..

What I'd like to do eventually is to finish writing a bit of javascript that shows a print sheet next to a list of each card in the set/sheet and allows you to hover over either to see indicators on the other side. The idea is to have some interactive proof that the data is correct (mtgjson, for instance, wants some record to verify -- though this would be going above and a little beyond that). Of course, there would be a downloadable json file that maps it out for anyone who might want to suck in the data.

I've started on it and am well on my way there, of course paying work has been busy lately so that has to take priority. Promise I will finish it though and post updates here.

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Re: Looking for print sheet images... for science! (to fix rarities on the Internet)

Post by dragsamou » Mon May 09, 2016 6:38 am

juzamefreet wrote:Thank you very much dragsamou! Must have been a bit of work :-D . And it's not at all surprising to find more errors at this point, only surprised that they've persisted so long..

What I'd like to do eventually is to finish writing a bit of javascript that shows a print sheet next to a list of each card in the set/sheet and allows you to hover over either to see indicators on the other side. The idea is to have some interactive proof that the data is correct (mtgjson, for instance, wants some record to verify -- though this would be going above and a little beyond that). Of course, there would be a downloadable json file that maps it out for anyone who might want to suck in the data.

I've started on it and am well on my way there, of course paying work has been busy lately so that has to take priority. Promise I will finish it though and post updates here.
Hi

As, I've added 2 extras pics of the Chronicles sheets in my first post. I did the Chronicles Common and Uncommon sheets. I didn't noticed any mistakes. What was the problem with Chronicles, something regarding the Uncommon sheet or else ?

Chronicles Card List
Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
(Released September 1995)

125 Cards Total (14 Black, 14 Blue, 14 Green, 14 Red, 14 White, 20
Multicolor, 21 Artifacts, 14 Land; 54 Commons, 71 Uncommons, 50 Rare;
14 from Arabian Nights, 21 from Antiquities, 71 from Legends, 19 from
The Dark)

Explanation of Rarity: the number after the rarity (e.g.: Common 1), means
that that card appears that many times on the print sheet.

2 Print sheets 11 X 11 = 242 cards

C1 = 17
C2 = 14
C3 = 90

U1 = 46
U3 = 75

Black 6 COMMONS C3 3 UNCOMMONS U1 15 UNCOMMONS U3

Banshee Jesper Myrfors U3 DK
Bog Rats Ron Spencer C3 DK
Cuombajj Witches Kaja Foglio C3 AN
Fallen, The Jesper Myrfors U3 DK
Fallen Angel Anson Maddocks U3 LG
Giant Slug Anson Maddocks C3 LG
Hasran Ogress Dan Frazier C3 AN
Hell's Caretaker Sandra Everingham U1 LG
Shimian Night Stalker Jesper Myrfors U3 LG
Takklemaggot Daniel Gelon U3 LG
Transmutation Susan Van Camp C3 LG
Wall of Shadows Pete Venters C3 LG
Wretched, The Christopher Rush U1 LG
Yawgmoth Demon Sandra Everingham U1 AQ

Blue 6 COMMONS C3 3 UNCOMMONS U1 15 UNCOMMONS U3


Azure Drake Dan Frazier U3 LG
Boomerang Brian Sno-ddy C3 LG
Dance of Many Sandra Everingham U1 DK
Dandân Drew Tucker C3 AN
Enchantment Alteration Brian Sno-ddy U3 LG
Fishliver Oil Anson Maddocks C3 AN
Flash Flood Tom Wänerstrand C3 LG
Juxtapose Justin Hampton U1 LG
Puppet Master Sandra Everingham U3 LG
Recall Brian Sno-ddy U3 LG
Remove Soul Brian Sno-ddy C3 LG
Teleport Douglas Shuler U1 LG
Wall of Vapor Richard Thomas C3 LG
Wall of Wonder Richard Thomas U3 LG

Green 6 COMMONS C3 3 UNCOMMONS U1 15 UNCOMMONS U3


Argothian Pixies Amy Weber C3 AQ
Cat Warriors Melissa Benson C3 LG
Cocoon Mark Tedin U3 LG
Concordant Crossroads Amy Weber U1 LG
Craw Giant Christopher Rush U3 LG
Cyclone Mark Tedin U1 AN
Emerald Dragonfly Quinton Hoover C3 LG
Erhnam Djinn Ken Meyer, Jr. U3 AN
Ghazbán Ogre Jesper Myrfors C3 AN
Metamorphosis Christopher Rush C3 AN
Rabid Wombat Kaja Foglio U3 LG
Revelation Kaja Foglio U1 LG
Scavenger Folk Dennis Detwiller C3 DK
Storm Seeker Mark Poole U3 LG

Red 6 COMMONS C3 3 UNCOMMONS U1 15 UNCOMMONS U3


Active Volcano Justin Hampton C3 LG
Aladdin Julie Baroh U1 AN
Beasts of Bogardan Daniel Gelon U3 LG
Blood Moon Tom Wänerstrand U1 DK
Fire Drake Christopher Rush U3 DK
Goblin Artisans Julie Baroh U3 AQ
Goblin Digging Team Ron Spencer C3 DK
Goblin Shrine Ron Spencer C3 DK
Goblins of the Flarg Tom Wänerstrand C3 DK
Land's Edge Brian Sno-ddy U1 LG
Mountain Yeti Dan Frazier C3 LG
Primordial Ooze Sandra Everingham U3 LG
Wall of Heat Richard Thomas C3 LG
Wall of Opposition Harold McNeill U3 LG

White 6 COMMONS C3 3 UNCOMMONS U1 15 UNCOMMONS U3


Abu Ja'far Ken Meyer, Jr. U3 AN
Akron Legionnaire Mark Poole U1 LG
Angelic Voices Julie Baroh U1 LG
Blood of the Martyr Christopher Rush U3 DK
D'Avenant Archer Douglas Shuler C3 LG
Divine Offering Jeff A. Menges C3 LG
Indestructible Aura Mark Poole C3 LG
Ivory Guardians Melissa Benson U3 LG
Keepers of the Faith Daniel Gelon C3 LG
Petra Sphinx Sandra Everingham U1 LG
Repentant Blacksmith Drew Tucker C3 AN
Shield Wall Douglas Shuler U3 LG
War Elephant Kristen Bishop C3 AN
Witch Hunter Jesper Myrfors U3 DK

Artifact 7 COMMONS C2 14 UNCOMMONS U1

Arena of the Ancients Tom Wänerstrand U1 LG
Ashnod's Altar Anson Maddocks C2 AQ
Ashnod's Transmogrant Mark Tedin C2 AQ
Barl's Cage Tom Wänerstrand U1 DK
Book of Rass Sandra Everingham U1 DK
Bronze Horse Mark Poole U1 LG
Feldon's Cane Mark Tedin C2 AQ
Fountain of Youth Daniel Gelon C2 DK
Gauntlets of Chaos Dan Frazier U1 LG
Horn of Deafening Dan Frazier U1 LG
Jalum Tome Tom Wänerstrand U1 AQ
Jeweled Bird Amy Weber U1 AN
Living Armor Anson Maddocks C2 DK
Obelisk of Undoing Tom Wänerstrand U1 AQ
Rakalite Christopher Rush U1 AQ
Runesword Christopher Rush C2 DK
Sentinel Randy Asplund-Faith U1 LG
Serpent Generator Mark Tedin U1 LG
Tormod's Crypt Christopher Rush C2 DK
Triassic Egg Dan Frazier U1 LG
Voodoo Doll Sandra Everingham U1 LG

Land 12 COMMONS C1 2 UNCOMMONS U1

City of Brass Mark Tedin U1 AN
Safe Haven Christopher Rush U1 DK
Urza's Mine Anson Maddocks C1 AQ
Urza's Mine Anson Maddocks C1 AQ
Urza's Mine Anson Maddocks C1 AQ
Urza's Mine Anson Maddocks C1 AQ
Urza's Power Plant Mark Tedin C1 AQ
Urza's Power Plant Mark Tedin C1 AQ
Urza's Power Plant Mark Tedin C1 AQ
Urza's Power Plant Mark Tedin C1 AQ
Urza's Tower Mark Poole C1 AQ
Urza's Tower Mark Poole C1 AQ
Urza's Tower Mark Poole C1 AQ
Urza's Tower Mark Poole C1 AQ

Multicolor 5 COMMONS C1 15 UNCOMMONS U1

Arcades Sabboth Edward Beard, Jr. U1 LG
Axelrod Gunnarson Scott Kirschner U1 LG
Ayesha Tanaka Bryon Wackwitz U1 LG
Chromium Edward Beard, Jr. U1 LG
Dakkon Blackblade Richard Kane Ferguson U1 LG
Gabriel Angelfire Daniel Gelon U1 LG
Johan Mark Tedin U1 LG
Kei Takahashi Scott Kirschner C1 LG
Marhault Elsdragon Mark Poole C1 LG
Nebuchadnezzar Richard Kane Ferguson U1 LG
Nicol Bolas Edward Beard, Jr. U1 LG
Palladia-Mors Edward Beard, Jr. U1 LG
Rubinia Soulsinger Rob Alexander U1 LG
Sivitri Scarzam NéNé Thomas C1 LG
Sol'kanar the Swamp King Richard Kane Ferguson U1 LG
Stangg Mark Poole U1 LG
Tobias Andrion Andi Rusu C1 LG
Tor Wauki Randy Asplund-Faith C1 LG
Vaevictis Asmadi Andi Rusu U1 LG
Xira Arien Melissa Benson U1 LG
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