"Ice Age Glossy Serie" (The Truth is out There) Up
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:49 am
Hi Guys !
So...
If you have read this post :
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... php?t=9424
and older ones in Magic Librarities and rumours, I can now explain a little bit this famous "case".
It's of course some speculations about some facts but if got some in my hand so I will try resume you the following things :...
Everyone knows the 4th Alternate cards tested by Wotc and printed in early 1995 with the United States Playing cards corporation...
Here's the internal informations link for it :
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/720-rar ... index.html
Production was stopped due to the quality type of cards (too Glossy, to thick etc...), a little bit like Revised Summer dated 1994 but for other reasons.
4Th Alternate exist only as Starter Decks.
So for now me .... that's the same case for Ice Age (same period).
Wotc at the same period has try to produce the same kind of cards but with Carta Mundi Belgium.
Perhaps to compare the both entreprise for quality, cost etc...
What's happen so ?
4th Alternate Starter Deck production was stopped as well as the first "shot" production of the Ice Age Starter deck by Carta Mundi due to the US "bad" quality result.
That explain the fact that they are 2 differents Ice Age Starter Deck (Same ISBN : 1-880992-64.7 (WOTC Product WOC6506) but :
- For one there's the presence of the old Garfield Games Logo, starter Deck price USD 7.95.
- Fo the other one, no Garfield Games Logo and price USD 8.95.
I think but not sure that the Glossy Ice Age deck are the one with the Old Garfield Logo....
For his distribution, it's seems to be, perhaps stupid, but got some of them and I have only find them in some Belgium collector's collection or my own box of wines ... (I classify my cards in Wood Wine boxes) .
At this Level of course if the production was stopped it's possible that thoses Starter deck are only present on the European ground mainly Belgium because... Carta Mundi "quick" distribution.
I could explain this... because I have sell Ice Age on his time in shop and Ice Age was available from memory before in Europe and a few after on the other markets.
So whats the "Egg Chicken Color in the forest of the big beasts" :
The cards are not so easy to find if I compare with the 4th Alternate.
- The Glossy quality in a certain way is "beter" (so hard to see), the cards are slightly thicker. The Glossy Black cards are more easy to see.
You must play with a good light and compare a bunch of Ice Age cards.
Like a enchantment the glossy ones will appear from themselves.
I don't have tested them for the moment under UV lights.
I can notify as well that some Glossy cards owns printed or handwrited numbers on them (first board printing I think so perhaps done as tested cards).
For the Starter Deck cards containing it's random like the boosters :
3 Rares, 9 Uncommons, 26 Commons and 22 Lands.
It means of course that you have bunch of chance to find Ice Age Glossy common cards but Rare Glossy will be of course more difficult to find....
Logic....
That's all Folks !
Thanks for the guys that have help me in my other post to have a generel basic history of "The Truth is out there" but perhaps ... here.
And already best wishes for this end of year !
Cheers
Eric
So...
If you have read this post :
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... php?t=9424
and older ones in Magic Librarities and rumours, I can now explain a little bit this famous "case".
It's of course some speculations about some facts but if got some in my hand so I will try resume you the following things :...
Everyone knows the 4th Alternate cards tested by Wotc and printed in early 1995 with the United States Playing cards corporation...
Here's the internal informations link for it :
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/720-rar ... index.html
Production was stopped due to the quality type of cards (too Glossy, to thick etc...), a little bit like Revised Summer dated 1994 but for other reasons.
4Th Alternate exist only as Starter Decks.
So for now me .... that's the same case for Ice Age (same period).
Wotc at the same period has try to produce the same kind of cards but with Carta Mundi Belgium.
Perhaps to compare the both entreprise for quality, cost etc...
What's happen so ?
4th Alternate Starter Deck production was stopped as well as the first "shot" production of the Ice Age Starter deck by Carta Mundi due to the US "bad" quality result.
That explain the fact that they are 2 differents Ice Age Starter Deck (Same ISBN : 1-880992-64.7 (WOTC Product WOC6506) but :
- For one there's the presence of the old Garfield Games Logo, starter Deck price USD 7.95.
- Fo the other one, no Garfield Games Logo and price USD 8.95.
I think but not sure that the Glossy Ice Age deck are the one with the Old Garfield Logo....
For his distribution, it's seems to be, perhaps stupid, but got some of them and I have only find them in some Belgium collector's collection or my own box of wines ... (I classify my cards in Wood Wine boxes) .
At this Level of course if the production was stopped it's possible that thoses Starter deck are only present on the European ground mainly Belgium because... Carta Mundi "quick" distribution.
I could explain this... because I have sell Ice Age on his time in shop and Ice Age was available from memory before in Europe and a few after on the other markets.
So whats the "Egg Chicken Color in the forest of the big beasts" :
The cards are not so easy to find if I compare with the 4th Alternate.
- The Glossy quality in a certain way is "beter" (so hard to see), the cards are slightly thicker. The Glossy Black cards are more easy to see.
You must play with a good light and compare a bunch of Ice Age cards.
Like a enchantment the glossy ones will appear from themselves.
I don't have tested them for the moment under UV lights.
I can notify as well that some Glossy cards owns printed or handwrited numbers on them (first board printing I think so perhaps done as tested cards).
For the Starter Deck cards containing it's random like the boosters :
3 Rares, 9 Uncommons, 26 Commons and 22 Lands.
It means of course that you have bunch of chance to find Ice Age Glossy common cards but Rare Glossy will be of course more difficult to find....
Logic....
That's all Folks !
Thanks for the guys that have help me in my other post to have a generel basic history of "The Truth is out there" but perhaps ... here.
And already best wishes for this end of year !
Cheers
Eric