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Unlisted French/German Test Prints & Homelands Misprints

Post by mmgun » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:26 pm

This one is not on magiclibrarities listed yet, probably unknown till today?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Mountain-Pa ... 4611898096


The Auction text says Island Picture with Dark Ritual Text, but the picture shows Mountain picture with Paralyze Text

He also has listed

Stonerain pic with terror text

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Stone-Rain- ... 43be34a54c

and

Forest Pic with Weakness text

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Forest-Weak ... 43be349da6

In Addition he has listed

another Homelands Cards with Front printed on both sides, where i knew for now just the Ishans Shade in existence

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Eron-the-Re ... 43be349d7c

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Post by Magic61983 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:30 pm

There are roughly 12 different variations of the Homelands cards that exist. If you would like to know what others are out there I can make this easy for you.

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BGS 9+ Alpha set 282/295 (97.29%) Avg 9.41
BGS 9.5+ Beta set 283/302 (93.71%) Avg 9.58
BGS 9.5+ Arabian set 35/92 (38.04%) Avg 9.62
BGS 9.5+ Antiquities set 82/100 (82%) Avg 9.64
BGS 9.5+ Legends set 279/310 (90.00%) Avg 9.61

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Post by pp » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:39 pm

WOW! Incedible new informations! :-O

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Post by mmgun » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:09 pm

thats definitly interesting, so cards with another UC1/UC3 on the back and with the same UC on the back exist.
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Post by Magic61983 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:09 pm

There's also a double sided Chime and a Irini Sengir can't remember the other side of the Irini though I can check once I get home.
BGS 9+ Alpha set 282/295 (97.29%) Avg 9.41
BGS 9.5+ Beta set 283/302 (93.71%) Avg 9.58
BGS 9.5+ Arabian set 35/92 (38.04%) Avg 9.62
BGS 9.5+ Antiquities set 82/100 (82%) Avg 9.64
BGS 9.5+ Legends set 279/310 (90.00%) Avg 9.61

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Post by ouallada » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:22 pm

They were much more likely to exist than not, just a question of whether we will ever see the other permutations. When you have a UC sheet turned and printed again, there are bound to be different combinations. Will be interesting to see if we ever see cards with the same fronts and different backs.

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Post by Magic61983 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:41 pm

I'm not sure there are as many variations as we think although I think a few may exist this was used at wizards for testing purposes and wasn't done by accident. Also every card on the long edge has a color bar on it which is a different color not sure what the purpose of that is but it's on all of them.
BGS 9+ Alpha set 282/295 (97.29%) Avg 9.41
BGS 9.5+ Beta set 283/302 (93.71%) Avg 9.58
BGS 9.5+ Arabian set 35/92 (38.04%) Avg 9.62
BGS 9.5+ Antiquities set 82/100 (82%) Avg 9.64
BGS 9.5+ Legends set 279/310 (90.00%) Avg 9.61

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Re: unlisted french/German testprint

Post by dragsamou » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:22 am

mmgun wrote:This one is not on magiclibrarities listed yet, probably unknown till today?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Mountain-Pa ... 4611898096


The Auction text says Island Picture with Dark Ritual Text, but the picture shows Mountain picture with Paralyze Text

He also has listed

Stonerain pic with terror text

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Stone-Rain- ... 43be34a54c

and

Forest Pic with weakness text

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Forest-Weak ... 43be349da6
Hi

Thanks added to the Compilation "German/French Copyright" Test Prints:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... php?t=7192

Regarding the homelands Test Prints, I need to create a Compilation and add them in the Test Prints, Press Checks and Production Anomalies index and sub-section.
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Post by ouallada » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:40 pm

Magic61983 wrote:I'm not sure there are as many variations as we think although I think a few may exist this was used at wizards for testing purposes and wasn't done by accident. Also every card on the long edge has a color bar on it which is a different color not sure what the purpose of that is but it's on all of them.
Are we sure these are test prints, though? It's semantical, but there is a reason the textless saga cards aren't test prints but misprints. I can't think of any reason why these, or stuff like HP/Wyvern backed cards are test prints. It seems possible that they were random errors that were printed and disposed of, with some leftovers given to members of staff/artists.

Up for speculation: what exactly was being tested?

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Post by dragsamou » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:18 pm

ouallada wrote:
Magic61983 wrote:I'm not sure there are as many variations as we think although I think a few may exist this was used at wizards for testing purposes and wasn't done by accident. Also every card on the long edge has a color bar on it which is a different color not sure what the purpose of that is but it's on all of them.
Are we sure these are test prints, though? It's semantical, but there is a reason the textless saga cards aren't test prints but misprints. I can't think of any reason why these, or stuff like HP/Wyvern backed cards are test prints. It seems possible that they were random errors that were printed and disposed of, with some leftovers given to members of staff/artists.

Up for speculation: what exactly was being tested?
So Test Print or Misprint for the German Homelands? I let the experts have a theory battle, then I will add the "Clear as Crystal" info, in the appropriate section :) But, I do remember from a Test Print Specialist Member that helped me on that subsection, that if the German Homelands are not in the subsection, it's because they are Misprints. So, if you can prove the opposite, I gladly add them there. As a reminder:

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... shan+shade

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... php?t=2560
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Post by ende73 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:20 pm

pp wrote:WOW! Incedible new informations! :-O
Regarding GER Homelands double-sided cards, I own:

Eron the Relentless - Eron the Relentless (upside-down)

so we now know for sure that duplicates are possible ?!

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Post by GraueEminenz » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:24 pm

I know of at least 3 existing Ishan's Shades.

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Post by Tha_Gunslinga » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:40 pm

I sold an Ihsan's Shade earlier this year.

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