artist proofs---summer

[MagicRumorMill]

I have a series of questions about artist proofs.

1) Are there such things as summer magic artist proofs?

2) Are there alt. 4th proofs?

3) Are there proofs for all language cards?  Also, are the limit of 50 that the artists get in each language or just english?

4) How do the artists receive the proofs?  In other words, would it be possible to find a sealed packedge of all 50 proofs of one card?  If so, is it possible to find crimped artist proofs?

5) Are there any miscut proofs that are known?  

6) Are there any uncut sheets of proofs that exist?

7) How many are on a sheet?  Are there ever filler cards for proofs?

I thank all in advance for any help on this.  I do have ALOT of proofs but I have never seen anything out of the ordinary with them.  I do hope to find something odd though. ;D

[Celebrindor]

1) no

2) no

3) for most sets; don't known

4) not sure, but I doubt it

5) never heard of one  

6) yes

7) most likely 121 like other cards; possibly: see the thread where we argue about a filler with both sides completely white

[MagicRumorMill]

1) no

2) no

3) for most sets; don't known

4) not sure, but I doubt it

5) never heard of one  

6) yes

7) most likely 121 like other cards; possibly: see the thread where we argue about a filler with both sides completely white

First of all, wow, that was quick, thank you.

Second, could you talk a little about #6 please?

Third, If a filler was blank on both sides, how would you figure out if it was or not?  Just the bend test? :o

[Celebrindor]

First of all, wow, that was quick, thank you.

Second, could you talk a little about #6 please?

Third, If a filler was blank on both sides, how would you figure out if it was or not?  Just the bend test? :o

I have heard of uncut sheets with blank backs.  Basic assumption: they are artist proofs, or misprints missing the back, but it works the same either way.

[fvzappa]

Artist proofs are mailed to the artists, unless they make specific arrangements to pick them up. Many say that they are used as "tests" to get the pictures/cards right, this may be the case. But artists get their proofs about a month, month & 1/2 after the set comes out.

They come in foreign languages, but I am not sure if they come in all languages. Also, those cards like the "Terror", with just a title & art, are not available in AP form. Summer AP's do not exist, it was a redo of Revised anyhow. Alt. 4th also, but there are other Alt. 4th oddities such as fillers & misprints (I have a misprinted Alt. 4th card & Summer card).

The only oddities I've seen of AP's are just fantastic artwork. I'd imagine that since making AP's is a simple task to do, the 50 of each AP made will probably be closely inspected.

[mahdishain]

I have heard of uncut sheets with blank backs.  Basic assumption: they are artist proofs, or misprints missing the back, but it works the same either way.

celebrindor

as an artist proof and an uncut sheet collector this interests me very much. do you have any documentation?  thanks.

[MagicRumorMill]

Kind of off topic, Are there any non-english alt. 4th?

[psrex]

Kind of off topic, Are there any non-english alt. 4th?

No.  You should check out the old alt. 4th topics.  I'll see if I can find links to them.

http://www.magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yab ... 80;start=0

http://www.magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yab ... 350;start=

http://www.magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yab ... ;start=3#3

http://www.magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yab ... tart=13#13

http://www.magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yab ... 660;start=

I won't find them all.  There are more.

[bertrand]

I have an artists' print of a French card (Ice Age Plains, first part, signed and drawn on my arsist).. does anyone know how many of these exist?

[rick21n]

AP's come merely banded in paper.  Each band is the 50 copies of the one card.  Similar to how money is at the bank.

As for the time to get the proofs after the set comes out, I have to only say that Ed Beard Jr had his BoK Proofs at the Pre-Release.  Some sets/languages/artists may take longer then others however.

I have a Japanese "Antiquities" Ornithopter Proof (If anybody is confirming non-english sets with proofs).

[Muldoon]

I have a Japanese "Antiquities" Ornithopter Proof (If anybody is confirming non-english sets with proofs).

Is it just a BB ornithopter without expansion symbol, or it has the anvil? Need to know, to know if it's JP BB Chronicles or JP BB 4th. Thanks :)

[Mr.C]

Is it just a BB ornithopter without expansion symbol, or it has the anvil? Need to know, to know if it's JP BB Chronicles or JP BB 4th. Thanks :)

If it has an anvil, that will be confirmation that the JP Chronicles version is VERY different from the english version (although i doubt it...)

[Muldoon]

Case solved, it wasn't japanese ;D Just in case anyone else was wondering :D