Harry Potter backed MTG precon listed

Magic61983 · Post by **Magic61983** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:20 pm

The rumor I heard about the deck that sold for $13.1k was that Wizards bought the deck back and someone almost lost there job because of it. I'm not sure if this is true or not but that's just the rumor I heard. It was supposedly had to do with a copyright violation or something have no idea if that's true or not.

mystical_tutor · Post by **mystical_tutor** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:39 pm

phiswiz wrote:I contacted him and he said he found them at a garage sale.

Sounds reasonable. People end up with piles and piles of stuff they need to get rid of when they sell their garages and don't have any place to hide it anymore........

l0qii · Post by **l0qii** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:54 pm

phiswiz wrote:I contacted him and he said he found them at a garage sale.

translation: "I'm not going to tell you"

pp · Post by pp » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:19 pm

I'm not so shure that the »bought back« rumor is right.

berkumps · Post by **berkumps** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:26 pm

Magic61983 wrote:The rumor I heard about the deck that sold for $13.1k was that Wizards bought the deck back and someone almost lost there job because of it. I'm not sure if this is true or not but that's just the rumor I heard. It was supposedly had to do with a copyright violation or something have no idea if that's true or not.

I'm not up to snuff on US Copyright law, or US Trademark law, but I would guess if a legal issue were to arise, it would be related to Trademark? Harry Potter CCG was produced by WotC, and they had a license to use the names and likenesses, etc. on the cards, but to one not familiar with HP, having MtG images on the front of Harry Potter backed CCG cards could give the false impression that those images pertain to Harry Potter, and thus may fall under the Lanham act?

I can understand the concern a parent might have if they purchased a deck for their 8 yr old expecting them to open:

and instead they see:

hammr7 · Post by **hammr7** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:28 am

Based upon my uncut sheet, if there is one wrong-backed Magic pre-constructed deck, there will be two. It turns out when Wizards has the precons made, they use a typical 121 card sheet, and fill it with two different 60-card decks, plus a single filler.

Which means that at least some Pokemon and Harry Potter offerings are printed in 11 x 11 sheets. This makes sense, as the equipment is set up to run such sheets.

magic-belgium · Post by **magic-belgium** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:44 am

The other deck was bought by the collector in Switzerland.

NeRo · Post by **NeRo** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:35 pm

phiswiz wrote:I contacted him and he said he found them at a garage sale.

Nore sure if ...

None from the Seattle area around who could take a look or even personally pick it up?

Post by **dragsamou** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:12 pm

pp wrote:I'm not so shure that the »bought back« rumor is right.

Hi Patrick
Not sure at all either...

Post by **dragsamou** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:14 pm

l0qii wrote:The missing card is a land

Correct Tim, a Mountain to be precised...

Post by **dragsamou** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:19 pm

berkumps wrote: I wouldn't bid unless I could see it in person (or perhaps a video). Then again, I wouldn't bid to begin with knowing "...The "Goblin Mob" deck was sold 13,100$ to a private collector on Ebay, after an epic try from Magic Rarities Members to get it. "
That's just too much coin for my purse.

Hi Mark
If I will have the money, I wouldn't bid on this one either, the deck , I bid on, was from a Shop, and I could contact them and get all the answers needed, but coming from a "Garage sale", I will not take the risk.

gzeiger · Post by **gzeiger** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:10 am

I am in the area and could make an in-person pickup. It seems like a bad risk though, and I'm not excited about driving down there for an inspection prior to bidding since I don't myself have the money to win the auction. Is there a way to have the local branch of your favorite bank release a cashier's check to me (or whoever else may be in the area) following a video call or something where we agree on the authenticity?

I also would be interested in one or more singles. I don't think your pricing model is correct though - surely the lands are valuable than bad commons, but the MKM prices will surely not reflect that. Am I alone in thinking that?

I am uncertain how to go about authenticating this as an inspector though. Is it expected to have the same tell-tales as a Magic card, like the blue line and the characteristic print pattern? It's been a long time since I held a Harry Potter card (although I could get some if needed), but I feel like they were made on an inferior cardstock and I never looked hard at the printing. Anybody have insight on that?

gzeiger · Post by **gzeiger** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:12 am

I missed the end time I guess - obviously there's no time to consider an inspection before the end of the auction.

magic-belgium · Post by **magic-belgium** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:00 am

gzeiger wrote:
I also would be interested in one or more singles. I don't think your pricing model is correct though - surely the lands are valuable than bad commons, but the MKM prices will surely not reflect that. Am I alone in thinking that?

Was just trying to find a way value them. I might as well put them up for auction so that people can value them as they want to.

pp · Post by pp » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:12 am

MKM prices? The Harry potter have never been sold in singles!?

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