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Edit the PHP software!!!

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:17 pm
by secretgiant
Give members with a high number of posts (40+) the ability to delete anything from someone with a very low number of posts (3-5), this way anyone can shut off these quick spammers.

Re: Edit the PHP software!!!

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:48 pm
by TerraFrost
secretgiant wrote:Give members with a high number of posts (40+) the ability to delete anything from someone with a very low number of posts (3-5), this way anyone can shut off these quick spammers.
One problem with that, I think, is that that would very likely be abused. If there was ever a heated political debate, people could use this feature to silence critics by deleting their posts.

That said, I think giving people this ability would effectively be making them moderators. As such, giving them that status, through the ACP, would probably be more to the point.

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:17 pm
by dragsamou
Hi.
Spams are Really not staying that long on the Forums,as I delete most of them Immediately.Having 10 Members deleting Spams won't be changing that there's always be spammers.IMHO.

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:22 pm
by Dr. Doom
maybe a better signup sequence, so that bots do not have a chance to register.
at least, it seems that there are a lot of bots between them

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:24 pm
by Ralph Herold
secretgiant's idea is not feasible. As it has been said, I would effectively have to make a lot of people moderators, and I do not wish to do that. The power to delete posts is far too powerful to hand it to people I barely know.

That being said, I am concerned about the spammer problem. I have to delete around 3 to 4 spammer accounts daily, and I know that a lot more bots have their spam messages suppressed by countermeasures but nonetheless pollute the memberlist. My solution will be executed in three steps:

1. I will install phpBB 3.0 as it becomes available. At the moment, Beta 4 is tested, so a final release is soon to come. I hope that it will feature advanced countermeasures to fend off bots.

2. I will do a massive cleanup of the memberlist. It will be done in the same way as last time, only that this time all members without posts will receive an email, not only those who have registered at least half a year ago.

3. I will introduce some registration requirements specifically aimed to filter out bots. The basic idea is that new members will have to post something customized within a short span of time after their registration or have their accounts deleted. Further details will follow after I will have studied all options phpBB 3.0 will offer.

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:57 am
by hammr7
Since all the spam typically goes to the website general section of the forum, I thin we should add a new area callled "real website general". We can use the "real" section for our needs, and the spammers can go to the old section, and be deleted whenever a mod gets a chance.

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:57 am
by Ralph Herold
I made Scheduled for Deletion the first board. Maybe this helps a little.

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:01 am
by dragsamou
hammr7 wrote:Since all the spam typically goes to the website general section of the forum, I thin we should add a new area callled "real website general". We can use the "real" section for our needs, and the spammers can go to the old section, and be deleted whenever a mod gets a chance.
Hi Hank.
This apply for some of them,but,I delete sometimes Spams that are in every sections of the website,yesterday it was the same spam in every forums including last post of some members.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:23 pm
by Mr. Nightmare
On MTGTheSource.com, we've initiated a policy of Administrator Authentication on all new member signups. This basically means all new users have to be approved by administrators befor they can post. While this may be a slight bit more work for the admins, it's generally less than it would be to delete all the spam that floods the site.

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:12 pm
by Ralph Herold
Mr. Nightmare: I thought about this, but I see the problem that I can not tell in front who is a spammer and who is not (some obvious names excluded), so I would have to interview all these people which sounds impractical. How do you manage this?

Note: The administrator authentication feature in this software does not prevent people from actually registering, just from posting. Additional means are necessary to keep the memberlist free of bots.

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:40 am
by agzz
I thought they was bots but I might be off.

Even if it only keep them from posting its ok right, thats their goal?

And you dont need to do a fancy interview. A simpel mtg related question will put spammers off. "what differs beta from unl?" or something along thoose lines.