StarCityGames.com Offers Alt 4th cards for Sale

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Re: StarCityGames.com Offers Alt 4th cards for Sal

Post by Archivist » Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:11 am

uh oh, alternate 4th just jumped the shark.
Bwahahaha!!!  ... but I personally think it jumped back in March.
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Post by Celebrindor » Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:21 am

Bwahahaha!!!  ... but I personally think it jumped back in March.
Holy crap - you were right on with that prediction.  Too bad no one listened to you.  Glad I've decided to not collect Alt. 4th.

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Post by sylvanstu » Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:26 am

Whatn am i missing i went to that sight and i saw nothing about alt 4th
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Post by BenBleiweiss » Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:08 am

Whatn am i missing i went to that sight and i saw nothing about alt 4th
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Post by Gryfalia » Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:32 pm

Well, the top of the page explains what 'jump the shark' means..

Basically when a TV show starts to get old/stale so they do something spectacular to get ratings back up and build interest in the show again.  Fonzie jumped a shark on his motorcycle in that episode, hence the phrase.

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Post by misterpid » Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:14 pm

Well, the top of the page explains what 'jump the shark' means..

Basically when a TV show starts to get old/stale so they do something spectacular to get ratings back up and build interest in the show again.  Fonzie jumped a shark on his motorcycle in that episode, hence the phrase.

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Post by fvzappa » Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:10 pm


Holy crap - you were right on with that prediction.  Too bad no one listened to you.  Glad I've decided to not collect Alt. 4th.
I listened, in fact I figured it out back then too & have always only traded Alt for Alt for some time now.

So you are glad you decided not to collect Alt. 4th? You are going for a Summer set, right? Good luck on that one....

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Post by dry cereal » Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:58 am

Regardless of the rarity, I think these are fun.  if/when prices hopefully stabilize (hopefully for me anyway) I think I'll pick some up.
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Post by Gryfalia » Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:03 am


Actually, he jumped it on water skis.

Sorry, I have blacked that episode from my memory, so I don't recall it all..;-)

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Post by sylvanstu » Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:14 am


Sorry, I have blacked that episode from my memory, so I don't recall it all..;-)

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Re: StarCityGames.com Offers Alt 4th cards for Sal

Post by misterpid » Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:07 pm

Getting back onto the topic of Alt 4th...

I finally went through most of my 4th edition cards with a black light.  It looks like somewhere along the way, I picked up 3 Alt 4th starter decks.  Here's my thoughts on the cards I have.

At the time 4th was the current set, I was living in New Jersey.  I don't think that I bought any starters outside of New Jersey (and I don't think I ever bought any after 5th edition came out).  So, it looks like some Alt 4th made its way out to the East Coast - not just the Midwest, like some people have claimed.

While the Alt 4th make up only a small portion of my total 4th collection, they do make up about half of my basic lands - which means that half of the starters decks I bought were Alt 4th.  This doesn't really say anything about how much Alt 4th might have been available in New Jersey, but I do wonder how much more I would have if I had bought more than 6 starter decks.

I actually kept most of my starter boxes at that time, but I can only find 3 of my 4th edition boxes and they all say Carta Mundi on the side, not US Playing Card Company.

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Post by Gryfalia » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:45 pm

Well, I went through the singles that I am selling at a local store and found 3 cards that were, well, reddish (not bluish like in the picture here).  But they are most definately different, and the print pattern is a bit different, and they feel..slicker...

So I have 3..yippee..

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Re: StarCityGames.com Offers Alt 4th cards for Sal

Post by squt » Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:41 pm

It really does seem like there is a lot out there...a lot more than we've been speculating.  If people all over the world are finding it in their collections, I have the feeling that the first print run was not destroyed at all - it is starting to look like it got into the hands of a world-wide distributor.  It's also possible that the company continued to print and sell these cards in the Cincinnati area after they were told to cease.  There just seems to be waaaayyy too much anecdotal evidence that it's out there in significant quantity to think that it's even close to Summer in rarity.

I know it's been hard for people to complete their sets, but up until now, none of us has really had any incentive to check their collections.  If the majority of us even has a handful of these mixed in with our collections, there's got to be a ton out there.

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Re: StarCityGames.com Offers Alt 4th cards for Sal

Post by GraueEminenz » Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:24 pm

Good point, squt.
As I have written pages before:
In my 'early years' I had NO contact with the international market at all. I only bought cards, packs and starters at my local store. So a big question for me is, how can I own 121 alternate 4th cards at these days? (I live in Germany) I started to buy collections in the US as I already knew about the issue. So what?
a) USPCC printed more than we expect
b) Some of these 'few' must have been shipped to Europe imidiately - not very likely.
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