Distinguishing Italian 3rd WB and 4th Ed

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Distinguishing Italian 3rd WB and 4th Ed

Post by berkumps » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:51 am

I am having trouble distinguishing between these two sets. I am assuming the Channel on the right is 4th Ed, but I have no idea:

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Also, is there a "dark" printing and "light" printing for Italian 3rd WB (or 4th, whichever set it is)? Or does this just affect a couple cards only?

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Post by AzureWinter » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:26 am

Italian Revised (WB and BB) are 1994
Italian 4th is 1995

I usually look at Global Stone Rain or Pickle69's website to see what the date + language it is

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Post by berkumps » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:31 am

I thought only French 3rd WB was dated 1994, and both Italian and German were dated 1995?

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Post by l0qii » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:26 am

berkumps wrote:I thought only French 3rd WB was dated 1994, and both Italian and German were dated 1995?
That's correct.
The one on the left and in the middle are both italian wb Revised (Seconda Edizione). The one on the right is 4th edition. I think the dark/light print are just natural variations within the set.

The dirty details on how to tell these sets apart was well documented by Ralph and is archived in a post here:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... php?t=2383

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Post by AzureWinter » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:17 am

so isnt french and italian 1994 for revised (bb + wb), 1995 for 4th
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German revised BB is 1994, revised WB and 4th is 1995?

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Post by l0qii » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:16 pm

French Revised BB 1994
French Revised WB 1994
Italian Revised BB 1994
Italian Revised WB 1995
German Revised BB 1994
German Revised WB 1995

All three 4th Editions are WB 1995

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Post by the swiss » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:53 pm

French Revised BB - 295 cards 1994 and 11 cards 1995
French 4E WB 1995 - and 67 cards 1996 (from the Introductory 2 Player Set (the same for German and Italy)

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Post by the swiss » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:23 pm

to finish:

English 4E 1995 - and 67 cards 1996 from the Introductery Set, vers. UK (Rivals has 1995)
Spanish 4E WB 1995 - and 67 cards 1996 from the Introductery Set
Japanese 4E WB 1995 (Introductery Set has 1995)

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Post by berkumps » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:03 pm

What are the 11 cards from French Revised BB with a 1995 copyright date? And are these also in German and/or Italian 3rd BB?

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Post by the swiss » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:24 pm

French revised WB - 11 cards 1995:

Etau de supplice
Anneau de Jouder
Bibliothèque de Leng
Argile promordiale

Ile sanctuaire

Ile-poisson Seyidna Yûnûs

Contrat avec les enfers
Mânes infernaux
Feu follet

Grizzlis


German and Italian: No

To fiend the difference enter French rev WB 1995 and French 4E 1995: look the archive.

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Post by berkumps » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:27 pm

the swiss wrote:French revised WB - 11 cards 1995:
My mistake, I thought you meant French Revised BB had 11 cards with '95 date.

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Post by the swiss » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:37 pm

Sorry, it was also my mistake. In the first time, the notice from me was BB (wrong) and not WB (correct).

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Post by AzureWinter » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:31 am

sorry for all my mistakes too.
which also makes me not to trust pickle69's website all the time
his italian revised wb says 1994, when his scan says 1995

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Post by Gary_a_Getty » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:50 pm

I can confirm :

1 Edizione Italiana - Italian Revised Black Bord 1994

2 Edizione Italiana - Italian Revised White Bord 1995

4 Edizione Italiana - 4th italian edition White Bord 1995

The differences, for Italian Revised WB and 4th edition, are text in box text (in 4th is "restricted") and Copyright line (in Revised is "bold" in 4th is "thin")

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