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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:15 am
by dragsamou
Hi Tav

As promised, I added the scans for Invasion (T-Chinese and S-Chinese), I'll let you write the text that goes with it.

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:04 pm
by Alien_Starfighter_Pilot
Hey Tav,

for Urza's Saga, there are different copyright years between S & T.

Also, as of when Traditional returned to the market in M11, the text hasn't changed (or of such subtlety that I have not noticed it). With that said, do you want to continue providing image examples with each set that comes out?

Clay

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:02 am
by cataclysm80
Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote:Hey Tav,

for Urza's Saga, there are different copyright years between S & T.

Also, as of when Traditional returned to the market in M11, the text hasn't changed (or of such subtlety that I have not noticed it). With that said, do you want to continue providing image examples with each set that comes out?

Clay
Thanks for the tip on the Urza's Saga copyright Clay! I've added it to the info.

I was originally going to stop with M12, but someone had asked me to go ahead and complete the list, which I did.

I hadn't planned on continuing to keep this up to date forever and probably won't work on it much beyond what's already listed.
I might update it in the future if someone asks me to do so, or if something changes and I start to have trouble telling the two languages apart again.
In the meantime, if anyone else feels like updating the list as new sets come out, feel free to post the info here in this thread where others can find it.

Tav

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:36 pm
by Alien_Starfighter_Pilot
Tav,

One more thing.... I could be seeing things, but it looks like Simplified Chinese Apocalypse, Odyssey block and Onslaught have bold and bright white font for the name of the card, whereas Traditional has an offwhite font color.

Clay

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:25 am
by cataclysm80
Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote:Tav,

One more thing.... I could be seeing things, but it looks like Simplified Chinese Apocalypse, Odyssey block and Onslaught have bold and bright white font for the name of the card, whereas Traditional has an offwhite font color.

Clay
I agree Clay,
Simplified has a bolder card name on Apocalypse & Odyssey.
Simplified Torment, Judgement, Onslaught, 8th Edition, & Mirrodin have bolder card name & rules text also.
That probably also applies to Simplified Legions & Scourge, but we don't have examples to see yet.
Darksteel retains the bold look of previous Simplified cards, but no Traditional cards were made to compare to.
5th Dawn onward uses a rules text font that is not bold, but retains the bold card name, and when Traditional was made again in M11 onward, it also has a bold card name. (Although with both of them bold, there isn't a non-bold one to compare to.)

I've adjusted some notes in the descriptions accordingly.

Thanks!

Tav

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:28 am
by cataclysm80
HUGE THANKS TO CLAY, GUNNAR & RON FOR ALL THE SCANS THEY PROVIDED!!!

Wow, there's only a few sets missing now!

Tav

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:33 pm
by ClaudeARDILLER
Hi, cataclysm80.

I see you are missing Chinese Legions comparative scans, here are both Fugitive Wizard(s):
http://www37.zippyshare.com/v/67696823/file.html

Friendly yours,
Claude.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:52 pm
by mmgun
ClaudeARDILLER wrote:Hi, cataclysm80.

I see you are missing Chinese Legions comparative scans, here are both Fugitive Wizard(s):
http://www37.zippyshare.com/v/67696823/file.html

Friendly yours,
Claude.

For vanilla creatures its hard to tell the difference for inexperienced people, because the very different rules text Font is missing.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:39 am
by mystical_tutor
cataclysm80 wrote:Now Updated with more card scans. BIG THANKS to Clay for his help!!!
mystical_tutor wrote:For Portal three kingdoms my rule of thumb is one has dark rules and light flavor the other the opposite. No Idea which is which.
Gary
Thanks for the tip Gary, that was helpful. I've added it to a few sets on this list where it was relevant. Now you should be able to tell which set is which by yourself if you want to.

Tav
I know this is an old thread but my summer went so fast I didn't really study it until now.
Yes, Tav, your work is greatly appreciated and did get me straightened out on which is which... Well, kinda, If I have a list of when what was printed, which your presentation covers quite well.

Thanks a lot for the work and the research.

Gary

An afterthought, did you check the promos in both languages that are on the board to see if there would be any usable scans for illustrating the differences?

Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:50 pm
by effai
I'm having a hard time finding differences between 7th edition mountain t-chinese and s-chinese. Would anyone mind helping me ?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:25 am
by berkumps
sure, send me a pic of it and i'll help.

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:31 pm
by effai
I was a bit away these last months, but here is the picture of the mountain I have :

Image

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:29 pm
by effai
anyone expert in chinese :) ?

would it be possible s-chinese and t-chinese mountains are the same ?

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:33 am
by mmgun
effai wrote:anyone expert in chinese :) ?

would it be possible s-chinese and t-chinese mountains are the same ?
I am no expert in chinese , but maybe with google.

The 2nd chinese sign in the name of these S and T chinese mountains is different.

s-chin 7th mountain ( not very good picture, but you see the difference):
Image

For better comparison, t-chin Khans of Tarkir, name is the same as on your above 7th:
Image


Compare with s-chin Khans of Tarkir, the name is like my first picture:

Image

compare with Zendikar, where ONLY s-chin exist :

Image



Investigation result: Your Mountains are 7th t-chinese.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:29 pm
by effai
thanks a lot :)