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by effai » Thu May 17, 2012 1:29 pm
mystical_tutor wrote:axcel wrote:mystical_tutor wrote:First of all, did they do an English printing in Europe for Avacyn?
Yes, my boosters say "made in Belgium".
OH, Goodie; Now we have two sets of combos probably.
Thanks much for letting me know. Now I will be able to keep an eye open for non US English stuff.
Do you have combos that are not on the sheet? If so please let us know.
Gary
Hi Gary,
I've put the combo that you don't have in green, and written EU in the one you already had for the one I got too.
Not much data, since there's only box, though
http://www.mediafire.com/?4dsmrd3z46h6x8u
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by mystical_tutor » Thu May 17, 2012 1:52 pm
effai wrote:Hi Gary,
I've put the combo that you don't have in green, and written EU in the one you already had for the one I got too.
Not much data, since there's only box, though
http://www.mediafire.com/?4dsmrd3z46h6x8u
Wonderful! Don't worry about it not being a lot of info. Every piece makes the puzzle more complete.
I have had some additions to the foil booster section and will post an updated master copy soon.
Thanks Much.
Gary
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by mystical_tutor » Thu May 17, 2012 9:30 pm
File updated and corrected--new link
Here is a complete file of English t/t cards that I know of.
Avacyn has been updated to include the European English information supplied by effai.
For some reason I can not get the spreadsheet looking pages anymore from Mediafire. I hope you don't have the same trouble.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jy8qb9w0c0a9dtx
Gary
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by tryst » Sat May 19, 2012 9:49 am
mystical_tutor,
Thanks for the full spreadsheet. Now I have something to compare against my own spreadsheet. For Dark Ascension, I have combed through Berkumps', yours and ABU Games. All match except in a few spots:
1. This token exists:
Token - Vampire - Ignite the Dawn (Avacyn Restored)
http://www.abugames.com/card218921-3740 ... -Card.html
2. Could you scan or take a picture of this Dark Ascension tip?
Token - Want to see how good your friends are
Is it the same as the Innistrad tip? Could you confirm that you have the DA backs?
3. What are your sources for these? (I can't seem to find them anywhere):
Token - Sorin Emblem - All Things Magic (Burning Book)
Tip - Booster Draft - Friday Night Magic (Door)
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by tryst » Sat May 19, 2012 10:00 am
berkumps,
I have compared your DA list with ABU Games. It matches, except one tip card:
http://www.abugames.com/card219352-3749 ... -Card.html
ABU Games calls it Fateful Hour.
I'm pretty sure that ABU just lists US tips/tokens as your two lists match almost perfectly. Also, mystical_tutor lists it as a US tip.
Any desire to trade? I have extra EU cards and lots of tips/tokens from other sets.
tryst
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by mystical_tutor » Sat May 19, 2012 5:42 pm
Thanks, I haven't found it yet.
tryst wrote:2. Could you scan or take a picture of this Dark Ascension tip?
Token - Want to see how good your friends are
Is it the same as the Innistrad tip? Could you confirm that you have the DA backs?
The FNM back is the same in Inn and DA but the other two backs, All things (burning book) and DA Intro Packs are unique to DA so I am certain about them (and just looked at them again). I am relatively certain about the FNM back being in DA as I tried very hard to keep them separate--but, I could have slipped. This is the one back that is common to both sets and open for cross contamination.
tryst wrote:3. What are your sources for these? (I can't seem to find them anywhere):
Token - Sorin Emblem - All Things Magic (Burning Book)
Tip - Booster Draft - Friday Night Magic (Door)
The source for the Sorin Emblem was Korea. I have it in my hand. Because English Cards in Korea are printed at CM I assumed EU English had that back. The one I found in the US has the DA Event Deck back.
The Booster Draft/FNM has a ? on the spreadsheet. It was reported to me (sorry, don't know by whom) but I have not seen it and am taking it with a question because it would be exactly like Inn (if there was one). I don't have it in either set and am not counting it till I see one or someone I know sees one (like you).
Thanks again for the info and let me know what you don't have from the US and save your extra EU English ones for me....
Gary
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by tryst » Wed May 23, 2012 8:46 pm
mystical_tutor,
Thanks for the Dark Ascension information.
I think there are only a few unknowns from that set now.
I wish Innistrad was a bit clearer.
As for Avacyn Restored, I just opened a box (printed in Belgium).
Everything matches your list, except these:
Human - Avacyn Restored Intro Packs
Zombie - Avacyn Restored Intro Packs
Emblem - 2013 Core Set
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by mystical_tutor » Thu May 24, 2012 3:02 am
Tryst;
Which human was that, red or white?
I updated my sheet and will post it later. thanks much for the info.
On the Innistrad sheet do your European combos match the cards I have marked with a K?
I hear you about the sets that have both Europe and US English cards. I had to look up a Zendikar t/t the other day and had forgotten what a giant mess
that set was.... I'm still in the dark about most of the European t/t cards, specially sense Mister Foilcard has become silent.
Gary
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by tryst » Thu May 24, 2012 6:32 pm
mystical_tutor,
Sorry, that is a white human.
What are the combos marked with a K?
Found in US English AND found in English cards you picked up in Korea?
Or, not found in US English but found in English cards you picked up in Korea?
If it's the former, then I would say that US English and Korea English cards are from the same printing.
The Korean tips/tokens don't look like US or EU....
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by mystical_tutor » Fri May 25, 2012 12:57 am
Tryst;
Thanks for jogging me on that. I forgot to "Um-Yellow" those boxes.
Those are English Language t/t cards I found in Korea and have not found in US English. Those that I found in Korea that I have found in the US are not designated.
Happened on to some new t/t from a couple sets.
M-12
Bird/Magic Weekend
Pentavite/FNM
Avacyn
Zombie/IDW
Angel/2013 Core Set --This was already reported in EU. The dealer where I found this assured me that all his t/t were from the Avacyn Pre-Release with no European cards. I hope to get into his tip cards later as he has just thrown them into a box (which is better then those that just throw them in the garbage).
tryst wrote:mystical_tutor,
Sorry, that is a white human.
What are the combos marked with a K?
Found in US English AND found in English cards you picked up in Korea?
Or, not found in US English but found in English cards you picked up in Korea?
If it's the former, then I would say that US English and Korea English cards are from the same printing.
The Korean tips/tokens don't look like US or EU....
tryst
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by tryst » Fri May 25, 2012 7:47 pm
That clears things up a bit.
Is that the same with the Sorin Emblem in Dark Ascension? I assume so.
Dark Ascension seems to be a lot more settled than Innistrad.
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by berkumps » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:40 am
I asked my LGS to save me all the tip cards when they opened 6+ cases of Avacyn Restored. I also scoured through all their tokens, unfortunately they had already sold all the Angel, Demon and Emblems, and only had 1 White Spirit token left. The spreadsheet below is the result of all the different combo's:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... UVmTjEyM1E
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by tryst » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:58 pm
berkumps,
First, I apologize for being picky.
Your tip list matches mystical_tutor's exactly except the Aether Adept/FNM and Aether Adept/Magic Online combos are switched.
For the former, you (berkumps) say it exists, mystical_tutor says it does not exist.
For the latter, you (berkumps) say it does not exist, mystical_tutor says it does exist.
I sense there is a simple switch going on here.
Would you mind physically verifying your cards?
Thanks,
tryst
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by mystical_tutor » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:25 pm
tryst wrote:I sense there is a simple switch going on here.
Would you mind physically verifying your cards?
Thanks,
tryst
Tryst; I verified mine and it really is Magic Online. Had me worried for a moment though as I have confused those two backs once before--why I don't know.
Berkumps; Thanks a bunch for going through all those cards. My LGS let me go through theirs and to my shock I found they had decided to stop seperating them by set and just file them all by token type (tips are not filed or sometimes even kept). Thus it was easier and harder at the same time.
With the one possible addition above of a Gatherer/FNM it seems like we have a real good take on what was printed.
When you check please see if you have two of them as I would like one.
Gary
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