Ice Age Strange Basic Land Quality Card (->4th alter)

Questions about Magic items and events.

Moderators: cataclysm80, hammr7, l0qii, Apocalypse2K, berkumps, dragsamou, mystical_tutor, pp

User avatar
MAGICSALEMAN
Legendary Bel Old Guru
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Europe
Contact:

Post by MAGICSALEMAN » Sat May 31, 2014 9:44 am

Arggghhhhhhhhhhh.... !!!!!
Found now a "Tarpan" glossy too with as well 49 marked in gold. ](*,)

User avatar
berkumps
Legendary AA Coffin Puppet Master
Posts: 2192
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:56 am
Location: Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Post by berkumps » Sat May 31, 2014 2:36 pm

MAGICSALEMAN wrote:Arggghhhhhhhhhhh.... !!!!!
Found now a "Tarpan" glossy too with as well 49 marked in gold. ](*,)
I give up! :)

User avatar
MAGICSALEMAN
Legendary Bel Old Guru
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Europe
Contact:

Post by MAGICSALEMAN » Sat May 31, 2014 7:36 pm

Got no "microscope" on the hand but when I compare the plains 49 and the Tarpan 49 I have the impression that those "49" like hand made seems to be printed...

Think I'll go a laboratory for thoses cards and me I'll take a apointment for a psychiatric room (For me) ....
:-k

User avatar
MAGICSALEMAN
Legendary Bel Old Guru
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Europe
Contact:

Post by MAGICSALEMAN » Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:43 pm

Got a latest one ... a "Flare" 49..

I really feel that the cards with 49 are a kind of Ice Age "glossy" testing cards.... because the 49 seems to printed in gold on them.
Can't go further without laboratory and several printing specialist
:-D

So I can say (perhaps) as for result :
----------------------------------------------

- Ice Age glossy 49 are testing cards (Perhaps).

- "Touch of Death" seems to be the best example as glossy Ice Age. (For the moment if I check my trucks of Ice age cards) ...

- Got a "Tor Giant' that owns a clearer small part on the backside of the card where I can see more cleary the difference with Ice Age glossy and Ice Age normal card.

So it is Folks !, ](*,)

User avatar
mystical_tutor
Legendary Old Fart Magic Player
Posts: 3056
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:02 am
Location: Colorado Springs

Post by mystical_tutor » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:45 pm

hammr7

Now that is really interesting and important historical information.

Alexis, do we have a place on the board where that kind of info is sitckied for reference? Or, will someone have to pick the right search word in the future to find this?

Much historical data seems to fade away into the archives.

Gary
Gary Adkison
Father of a former Wizards of the Coast janitor.

Knowledge is proud because it thinks it knows so much; wisdom is humble because it realizes it knows so little.

User avatar
dragsamou
Administrator
Posts: 5806
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:17 pm
Location: Paris

Post by dragsamou » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:50 pm

mystical_tutor wrote:hammr7

Now that is really interesting and important historical information.

Alexis, do we have a place on the board where that kind of info is sitckied for reference? Or, will someone have to pick the right search word in the future to find this?

Much historical data seems to fade away into the archives.

Gary
Hi Gary

All those valuable infos can only be obtain through the search function, which is a disaster, I really don't have time to put a sticky on so many topics that will need one, or even clean obsolete topics with broken links. Taking care of this website is like a Real full part job.
Want/Have Lists.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8903
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1515
I Love you Dad.R.I.P.

User avatar
MAGICSALEMAN
Legendary Bel Old Guru
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Europe
Contact:

Post by MAGICSALEMAN » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:38 am

Find a small serie even a rare "mudslide".
They are totally different if I put them on a table and if I compare with usual Ice.

cataclysm80
Librarities Legend
Posts: 709
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:09 pm
Location: Florida

Post by cataclysm80 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:51 pm

Alternate 4th has a different dot pattern from regular cards. It is visible under magnification. Here is a 600 DPI scan for comparison.
Image
Notice the little circles on the regular 4th Edition card. The Alternate 4th edition card doesn't have those.


As the others said earlier, I don't think the cards you found have anything to do with Alternate 4th Edition.

You still may have something very interesting though if you found multiple cards with 49 identically printed onto them in gold. Please keep us informed about your research.

If you find any Scaled Wurm or Ashen Ghoul, I may be interested in getting them from you if possible.

Tav

hammr7
Librarities Legend
Posts: 698
Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:29 pm
Location: Southern New Jersey

Post by hammr7 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:29 am

I've been thinking about the Ice Age glossies. Ice Age had a bunch of cards that were released early, as "promos" at shows and I believe in one or more of the comic books. These advance cards were definitely a separate printing. I can't remember if they were all glossy. If someone has some of the promo cards isolated, it would be interesting to see if they were all glossy. That would be the most logical explanation other than Carta Mundi using the wrong wear / gloss coat.

cataclysm80
Librarities Legend
Posts: 709
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:09 pm
Location: Florida

Post by cataclysm80 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:07 pm

Good thinking, but so far, non of the cards he has mentioned were among the promotional Ice Age cards.

Here is that list of where the Ice Age promos could be found. Each contained the listed card and a Norritt...

Pyramid #13 May Balduvian Barbarians

Non-Sport Update Vol.6 #2 March Gaze of Pain

Comic Buyer's Guide #1116 March Word of Undoing

Shadis #18 March Essence Flare

Cards Illustrated #18 April Fylgja

Scrye #7 March/April Dire Wolves

The Duelist #5 April/May Aurochs

Combo #4 April Scaled Wurm

Hero Illustrated #23 April Gorilla Pack

Wizard #45 April Prismatic Ward

Norritt also available in sealed packs of 50 sent to stores to give away.


Full story here http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... php?t=9122

Tav

User avatar
MAGICSALEMAN
Legendary Bel Old Guru
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Europe
Contact:

Post by MAGICSALEMAN » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:54 pm

I have buy a old collection and I have again some glossy Ice Age...

Second time that I found some but twice in my own country.... so Belgium.
At this time it was Carta Mundi... so I'm begin to thinking that Carta Mundi has printed a shoot for Wotc Belgium first and after other countries so.... Different printing series perhaps, so different quality... Glossy first it seems and after normal ones.

1st Distribution Wotc Belgium (of course because Carta Mundi...) = Glossy.
2st Production by series for each european Wotc central distribution....

That's of course a supposition but strange that I find thoses cards in Old Belgium Collector's Lot......

:-\'

Eric

PS : Could someone rememberd me if the Snow-Covered Mountains where only in Preconstructed deck or as well in Boosters?
Got 2 Incredible glossy card in my hand but poor...

User avatar
MAGICSALEMAN
Legendary Bel Old Guru
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Europe
Contact:

Post by MAGICSALEMAN » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:24 pm

Hours and hours of checking.... that was the first Ice Age Starter Deck that was affected for that Glossy effect.
The Rares Glossy seems to be very hard to find...
I don't remember exactly what was supposed to contains the Ice Age Starter decks...
Of course some snow covered land but the rest...
Like Warlord CCG in his time so some "fixed" cards as constructyed deck and after that 5 random cards.... ?
I'm digging in my head but... gosh.... the past .... :-\'

Anyway :

- Thoses cards are not so easy to recoignize like the 4Th Alternate but the Blue color in the word "Magic" of the back side card are more a flashy blue than the standard ones...

- Cards themselves seems to be more thicker.

- Cards more "plastic" type.

And I just find that after 19 years due to 1-2 card randomly found so strange.... How many have passed in my hands I don't know but if I check the Pannel of glossy that I have under my eyes that's few ...

End of investiogation except if I phone tomorrow to Carta Mundi :-D

By the way the black ones are more easy than the other colors....
Does anyone own a strange Necropotence ?

=D>

cataclysm80
Librarities Legend
Posts: 709
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:09 pm
Location: Florida

Post by cataclysm80 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:50 pm

The Ice Age started decks were random like booster packs, but they had about 20 lands in them.

Preconstructed decks didn't come until later.

Tav

User avatar
MAGICSALEMAN
Legendary Bel Old Guru
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Europe
Contact:

Post by MAGICSALEMAN » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:08 pm

Ok Thx Sir Tav !
I remember now....
So in my own classification here of Alternate Ice age seems now logic....

As for resume, those special cards are only issued from Ice Age Starter deck first publishing it seems for Belgium (? Europe) ....

If I remember in my "old past" I have sell Ice Age Starter deck before his distribution on the US ground....

Tav by the way ... do you remember how many rare Ice Age were present in those Starter decks ?

3 ? 4 ? 5 ?

User avatar
dragsamou
Administrator
Posts: 5806
Joined: Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:17 pm
Location: Paris

Post by dragsamou » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:00 am

MAGICSALEMAN wrote: Tav by the way ... do you remember how many rare Ice Age were present in those Starter decks ?

3 ? 4 ? 5 ?
3 Rares, 9 Uncommons, 26 Commons, and 22 Lands.
Want/Have Lists.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8903
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1515
I Love you Dad.R.I.P.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 18 guests