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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:36 am
by dragsamou
pickle.69 wrote:do you need a scan of the metal shivan?
Hi Richard
Sorry busy updating the Test Prints, Press Checks and Production Anomalies
subsection. Yes, I need a scan please.
pp wrote:
the swiss wrote: Uncut Magic-Sheet with POKEMON Back (Owner Hammr7):

I forgot witch Magic-Set......
Invasion

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... ht=pokemon
Hi Patrick
Was on that topic, I hope that Hammr7 can provide the names of the 2 Preconstructed Invasion decks, so I can add that in the info and a scan will be more than welcome.

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:51 am
by the swiss
8E with Unglued Symbl:

2 variations one the non-foil and foil cards:

brightly and darkly

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:29 pm
by the swiss
Testprints Foil/Star:

Oath of Lieges - white Exodus
Mana Breach - blue Exodus
Plaguebearer - black Exodus
Fighting Chance - red Exodus
Survival of the Fittest - green Exodus
Memory Crystal - artifact Exodus
City of Traitors - land Exodus
Pygmy Hippo - gold Visions


Exist first with silver border , no star, no numbers, after with black border, with and no star and numbers (-1, +1 etc) - all the cards with Magic Back.


First step: Silver Border:

Each card has 9 variations - brightly, darkly, Holo, foil layer over entire card, picture without foil layer, picture and textbox without foil layer, no foil layer at all.

Proposition:

It is better to take care on the black border prints for scans and missing scans. Keep the information over the silver border cards on the index only.

Action:

Cancel the number 1 to 9 for each card (index detail and pictures) and 020 (Survival ot the Fittest) and 037 (City of Traitors).

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:29 pm
by the swiss
Testprints Foil/Star:

Oath of Lieges - white Exodus
Mana Breach - blue Exodus
Plaguebearer - black Exodus
Fighting Chance - red Exodus
Survival of the Fittest - green Exodus
Memory Crystal - artifact Exodus
City of Traitors - land Exodus
Pygmy Hippo - gold Visions


Exist first with silver border , no star, no numbers, after with black border, with and no star and numbers (-1, +1 etc) - all the cards with Magic Back.


First step: Silver Border:

Each card has 9 variations - brightly, darkly, Holo, foil layer over entire card, picture without foil layer, picture and textbox without foil layer, no foil layer at all.

Proposition:

It is better to take care on the black border prints for scans and missing scans. Keep the information over the silver border cards on the index only.

Action:

Cancel the number 1 to 9 for each card (index detail and pictures) and 020 (Survival ot the Fittest) and 037 (City of Traitors).

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:16 pm
by pp
dragsamou wrote: To add scans, I spent hours retouching all of them, so they can look presentable, I will ask, but I'm pretty sure that you are right, and that the gold symbol is the result of a bad scanning. I will add the other info.Thanks.
I don't want to criticize, but some of the scans look awful :-/
Maybe your monitor is admjusted differently than mine, scans...

#009 Horned turtle: border looks weird, did you use floodfill to darken the border?

#025 Rathi Assassin: similar problem, the black color goes inside the card
(turn your monitor a little lighter Alexis, maybe you'll see the problem)

german 4th edition: all scans look very blurry

If you need/want help with anything: I am at your disposal.

regards, Patrick

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:28 pm
by the swiss
Index - Alternate frame 6E Testprints, 5 cards:

The Flame Spirit and others came out with the serie 8E with Unglued Symbol.

The 5 "cards" have white Borders.

I never see testprints with white borders.

They are real cards ???

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:04 pm
by the swiss
Oath of Lieges to pygmy hipppo:

While most.........symbol (Exodus/Visions). END. All cards exist with round and square corners belongs to

Pouncing Jaguar to Serra Avatar.


Alternate frame 8E Testprints:

"The Comon, Uncommn and Rare black cards with Unglued Symbol have white back."

Correct is:

..... Rare cards with Unglued black Symbol.........

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:48 pm
by the swiss
Testprints Antiquities and Revised (one of the other) on the back of excretory printing UL-Sheets:

Only on RARE-Sheet.

117 Rare and 4 Island

Pickle69, Alexis and other collector has a few cards.

Untreatet cards have square corners. Cards with 1, 2, 3 or 4 round corners are "Handmade".

Old Topic.


Thats all for the moment.

Still to make: Testprints Oath of Lieges to City of Traitors (8 cards) with Magic Back, Star and without Star, Black Borders and Numbers (-1 etc)

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:21 pm
by dragsamou
Hi Josef

I proceed by order as the work of updating the Test Prints subsection is huge.
the swiss wrote:Next Step:
Fallen Empires with Wyvern Back ( see Other 010):
121 cards exist (C-Set), no u/r

Scourge with Harry Potter Back:
from Precon Deck "Max Attack", 60 cards. Today 2 decks are known

Uncut Magic-Sheet with POKEMON Back (Owner Hammr7):
I forgot witch Magic-Set......
Info added in the Index
the swiss wrote:Next step:

8E Testprints Judgement Symbol:

All the cards have 2 versions: Artist at the left und darkly (see 006, 013, 014, 019, 034) and Artist at the right and brightly (see 001).

Listing:

blue

Compulsion
Counterspell
Flash of Insight
Mahamoti Djinn
Opposition
Patron Wizard
Persuasion
Sleight of Hand

arifact

Static Orb

red

Devastating Dreams
Earthquake
Firebolt
Fledgling Dragon
Price of Glory
Shock
Violent Eruption
Volcanic Hammer

gold

Shadowmage Infiltrator

green

Basking Rootwalla
Beast Attack
Birds of Paradise
Call of the Herd
Elephant Guide
Genesis
Llanowar Elves
Phantom Centaur
Spellbane Centaur
Squirrel Nest
Wild Mongrel

white

Benevolent Bodyguard
Disenchant
Longbow Archer
Suntail Hawk
Wrath of God

black

Chainer's Edict
Duress
Engineering Plague
Mutilate
Nantuko Shade

land

Adarkar Wastes
Barbarian Ring
City of Brass
Darkwater Catacombes
Karplusan Forest
Nantuko Monastery
Sulfurous Springs
Underground River

basic land

Swamp - Rob Alexander
Swamp - Arnie Swekel
Plains - Don Hazeltine
Plains - Alan Pollack
Mountain - Rob Alexander
Mountain - Franz Vohwinkel
Island - Alan Pollack
Island - Ben Thompson
Forest - Rob Alexander
Forest - unknown (never see this version)
= 57 cards x 2 = 114 cards.

I hope that the listing is entire.....
Info added in the Index
the swiss wrote:Number Cards and Specimen from S-Chinese 5E Boosters:

Number Cards (see 020, 021, 022)

Exist in blue, green and red
First number = 1, Last number = 109

I have

3 green, 71 red, 102 blue
24 green, blue, red
1 green, 109 red

I remember that Alexis has a listing from the Ebay Seller.

Specimen Cards (see 018)

I have

Skyshroud Falcon (white)
Spindraft Drake (blue)
Dungeon Shade (black)
Mob Justice (red)
Skyshroud Troopers (green)

All the "Specimen Cards" I see are commons from Stronghold.
Info added in the Index. Regarding the list of Specimen Cards Stronghold that exist , a complete list needs to be made. Looking the other posts now.

the swiss wrote:Testprints 8E with Unglued Symbol (see 011)

All the Basic-Lands (Forest, Mountain,Island,Plains,Swamp) has the same picture:
Parrallax Tide (Rare blue card from Nemesis)

Testprint (see 019):
Little "Typo": 8E and not 6E
Info added and typo corrected.
the swiss wrote:8E with Unglued Symbol:
2 variations one the non-foil and foil cards:
brightly and darkly
Info added

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:29 pm
by dragsamou
pp wrote:
dragsamou wrote: To add scans, I spent hours retouching all of them, so they can look presentable, I will ask, but I'm pretty sure that you are right, and that the gold symbol is the result of a bad scanning. I will add the other info.Thanks.
I don't want to criticize, but some of the scans look awful :-/
Maybe your monitor is admjusted differently than mine, scans...

#009 Horned turtle: border looks weird, did you use floodfill to darken the border?

#025 Rathi Assassin: similar problem, the black color goes inside the card
(turn your monitor a little lighter Alexis, maybe you'll see the problem)

german 4th edition: all scans look very blurry

If you need/want help with anything: I am at your disposal.

regards, Patrick
Hi Patrick.

Let's make it simple, I don't own any of these cards, and I didn't scan any of them except the German/ French Copyright Test Prints. So, I get them from bad scans either on the forum, scans that are from the Test Prints section that Ralph puts on years ago, from the website of one member (Nano) or from my own creation (Final Punishment/Harry Potter Back and Siege-Gang Commander/Harry Potter Back)

#009 Horned turtle: border looks weird, did you use floodfill to darken the border?
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/raritie ... other.html

#025 Rathi Assassin: similar problem, the black color goes inside the card
(turn your monitor a little lighter Alexis, maybe you'll see the problem)
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... i+assassin

german 4th edition: all scans look very blurry
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... php?t=7192
I use these ones for the moment, that I grab from my topic on the forum, as I really don't have the time to scan them in a better way for the moment.

Others scans are from here:
http://www.nextftp.com/nano/others.html
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb73 ... oils-1.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb73 ... oils-2.jpg

Let me know, if you can do better or have access to better scans, as I'm way too much overbusy.

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:54 am
by dragsamou
Hi Members

Before I go through the other posts and updating the Test Prints subsection. As I went yesterday into Archives and old posts, should these info be added in the Tests Prints Index, etc....

Japanese Mirage cards with Amstel Beer Card back:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... ght=amstel

Black/White Test sheet Revised:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... test+sheet

5th edition chinese lion-backed sheets:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... ight=#7725

Hurloon Minotaur Metal Card:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... est+prints

Should I mention the Black Filler with Pokemon back in the Filler Cards:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... ht=pokemon

Should I mention the Robot Chicken Promo:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... ot+chicken

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:56 am
by dragsamou
the swiss wrote:Index - Alternate frame 6E Testprints, 5 cards:

The Flame Spirit and others came out with the serie 8E with Unglued Symbol.

The 5 "cards" have white Borders.

I never see testprints with white borders.

They are real cards ???
Hi Josef
I let you go through this topic, that's where I collect the scan.
Read especially (Post #23) and (Post #38)
Let me know after reading it. Thanks
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=98017

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:30 am
by the swiss
Alexis

Thanks for the mail. For me, the cards are not real. Article 23 said: "idea of new frames". I propose to delete the "5 cards".

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:49 am
by dragsamou
the swiss wrote:Testprints Foil/Star:

Oath of Lieges - white Exodus
Mana Breach - blue Exodus
Plaguebearer - black Exodus
Fighting Chance - red Exodus
Survival of the Fittest - green Exodus
Memory Crystal - artifact Exodus
City of Traitors - land Exodus
Pygmy Hippo - gold Visions


Exist first with silver border , no star, no numbers, after with black border, with and no star and numbers (-1, +1 etc) - all the cards with Magic Back.


First step: Silver Border:

Each card has 9 variations - brightly, darkly, Holo, foil layer over entire card, picture without foil layer, picture and textbox without foil layer, no foil layer at all.

Proposition:

It is better to take care on the black border prints for scans and missing scans. Keep the information over the silver border cards on the index only.

Action:

Cancel the number 1 to 9 for each card (index detail and pictures) and 020 (Survival ot the Fittest) and 037 (City of Traitors).
Hi Josef
Silver Border, you wrote that each card has 9 variations but only 7 are mentioned:
1=brightly
2=darkly
3=Holo
4=foil layer over entire card
5=picture without foil layer
6=picture and textbox without foil layer
7=no foil layer at all.

Cancel the number 1 to 9 for each card (index detail and pictures) and 020 (Survival ot the Fittest) and 037 (City of Traitors)

I will wait for clarification, before updating. Thanks.

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:00 am
by dragsamou
the swiss wrote:Oath of Lieges to pygmy hipppo:

While most.........symbol (Exodus/Visions). END. All cards exist with round and square corners belongs to

Pouncing Jaguar to Serra Avatar.


Alternate frame 8E Testprints:

"The Comon, Uncommn and Rare black cards with Unglued Symbol have white back."

Correct is:

..... Rare cards with Unglued black Symbol.........
Hi Josef
I have added in the index:
*URZA'S SAGA TEXTLESS CARDS*
All cards exist with round and square corners.
More info should be added?

I have fixed the Alternate 8Th Edition Testprints info.