New Duel Deck: Knights Vs Dragons

caquaa · Post by **caquaa** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:06 am

59 cards + the foil knight?

mystical_tutor · Post by **mystical_tutor** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:38 pm

caquaa wrote:59 cards + the foil knight?

nope White/Green = 58 + foil + token.
Red = 59 + foil + two tokens (one in the deck in front of the Dragon Whelps)

When I took them out of the package I noticed the difference in thickness of the decks, which prompted me to do an exact count.

My take is that this set was improperly colated and I would like to know the proper number of cards for the set. I have 2 each of the following and one of everything else except basic lands which are 12 planes and 5 forests:
2 each:
Lionheart Maverick
Knight of Cliffhaven
Grasslands
Selesnya Sanctuary

My SWAG is that it is missing a land as there are 23 total in the Knight deck and 24 in the Dragon deck.

Gary

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot · Post by **Alien_Starfighter_Pilot** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:15 pm

mystical_tutor wrote:My Knight deck is illegal. When I take the Goblin token out I have only 59 cards.

that's one pesky goblin!

mystical_tutor · Post by **mystical_tutor** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:48 pm

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote:
mystical_tutor wrote:My Knight deck is illegal. When I take the Goblin token out I have only 59 cards.
that's one pesky goblin!

LOL.. for sure. I guess I should be happy I got 3 goblin tokens (in case I build a goblin deck....)

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot · Post by **Alien_Starfighter_Pilot** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:48 pm

IMHO, there are 2 things wrong with the knight deck.

a) being short one card. I think it is missing a 2nd Skyhunter Patrol, but it's possible the missing card could be a 2nd Caravan Escort, Leonin Skyhunter or Mighty Leap. I wonder if someone at WOTC knows what happened to the 60th card...

b) it's missing a 2/2 white Griffin creature TOKEN! well, I suppose they would have had to make the token for the Duel Deck, as Griffin Guide was printed previously in Time Spiral. Still, why, in this day and age, print a card in a set and not include the token it creates?

Seriously, I think having a new token would even be a selling point to this set.

and, uh, there don't seem to be any issues with the Dragon deck. I really like the new look for Ghostfire. Can't wait to play this Duel Deck against someone.

mystical_tutor · Post by **mystical_tutor** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:03 pm

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote:a) being short one card. I think it is missing a 2nd Skyhunter Patrol, but it's possible the missing card could be a 2nd Caravan Escort, Leonin Skyhunter or Mighty Leap. I wonder if someone at WOTC knows what happened to the 60th card...

OH, so all the knight decks are short a card? I just thought I got an accidental collation.

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote:b) it's missing a 2/2 white Griffin creature TOKEN! well, I suppose they would have had to make the token for the Duel Deck, as Griffin Guide was printed previously in Time Spiral. Still, why, in this day and age, print a card in a set and not include the token it creates? Seriously, I think having a new token would even be a selling point to this set.

I didn't notice that, good point.

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot · Post by **Alien_Starfighter_Pilot** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:21 pm

yeah, the Duel Deck I have opened so far was short a card too. thought it would be a land, but both the Knight and Dragon decks have 24 lands each. So I figure the 2nd copy of the mystery card in the set was bumped by the Goblin. Pesky Goblin!

Speaking of, I have misplaced the 3rd goblin from the Duel Deck, and can't find it. kinda afraid to go to sleep without putting it up. who knows what other pesky things it will do if allowed to run amok once the lights go out...

whoever opens a Knight deck next, please let me know what the first card under the goblin is. that could be the card that lost it's duplicate.

mystical_tutor · Post by **mystical_tutor** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:26 pm

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote:yeah, the Duel Deck I have opened so far was short a card too. thought it would be a land, but both the Knight and Dragon decks have 24 lands each. So I figure the 2nd copy of the mystery card in the set was bumped by the Goblin. Pesky Goblin!

whoever opens a Knight deck next, please let me know what the first card under the goblin is. that could be the card that lost it's duplicate.

In my set the first card under the Goblin was either Cavern Escort (#2) or none as the pesky goblin was either on the top of the deck or the bottom.

My second goblin in the dragon deck was stacked in the middle of the deck someplace--I think above the two Dragon Welps but not sure.

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot · Post by **Alien_Starfighter_Pilot** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:31 pm

mystical_tutor wrote:In my set the first card under the Goblin was either Cavern Escort (#2) or none as the pesky goblin was either on the top of the deck or the bottom.

Caravan Escort was one of the cards I figured could possibly be missing it's duplicate (see earlier post).

mystical_tutor · Post by **mystical_tutor** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:52 pm

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote:
mystical_tutor wrote:In my set the first card under the Goblin was either Cavern Escort (#2) or none as the pesky goblin was either on the top of the deck or the bottom.
Caravan Escort was one of the cards I figured could possibly be missing it's duplicate (see earlier post).

My Knight deck has only 23 lands.

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot · Post by **Alien_Starfighter_Pilot** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:00 pm

mystical_tutor wrote:My Knight deck has only 23 lands.

x2 Grasslands
x1 Sejiri Steppe
x2 Selesnya Sanctuary
x1 Treetop Village
x3 Plains (39)
x3 Plains (40)
x3 Plains (41)
x3 Plains (42)
x2 Forest (43)
x2 Forest (44)
x1 Forest (45)
x1 Forest (46)

24 lands in my Knight deck

I had single copies of every card in the Knight deck (besides the lands) except for Knight of Cliffhaven (x2) and Lionheart Maverick (x2).

psrex · Post by **psrex** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:06 am

Just as another point of information, both of my decks are complete and I only have two Goblin tokens. I can report back on my other set of the Knights vs. Dragons once I open it, but I'm guessing that they'll all be there since it is from the same display.

mystical_tutor · Post by **mystical_tutor** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:48 pm

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote:
mystical_tutor wrote:My Knight deck has only 23 lands.
x2 Grasslands
x1 Sejiri Steppe
x2 Selesnya Sanctuary
x1 Treetop Village
x3 Plains (39)
x3 Plains (40)
x3 Plains (41)
x3 Plains (42)
x2 Forest (43)
x2 Forest (44)
x1 Forest (45)
x1 Forest (46)

24 lands in my Knight deck

I had single copies of every card in the Knight deck (besides the lands) except for Knight of Cliffhaven (x2) and Lionheart Maverick (x2).

So you have a complete 60 card deck then.

After going through two other 59 card decks I found a 60 card deck and the second Forest (#44) was the card I do not have and the other two decks did not have. All these decks were from the same store but not the same display.

mystical_tutor · Post by **mystical_tutor** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:50 pm

psrex wrote:Just as another point of information, both of my decks are complete and I only have two Goblin tokens. I can report back on my other set of the Knights vs. Dragons once I open it, but I'm guessing that they'll all be there since it is from the same display.

Humm, I forgot to ask the person who had the 60 card Knight deck how many tokens she had--good point.

When you open the other one I would be interested in where the goblin tokens are found.

Gary

Alien_Starfighter_Pilot · Post by **Alien_Starfighter_Pilot** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:08 pm

mystical_tutor wrote:
Alien_Starfighter_Pilot wrote:
mystical_tutor wrote:My Knight deck has only 23 lands.
x2 Grasslands
x1 Sejiri Steppe
x2 Selesnya Sanctuary
x1 Treetop Village
x3 Plains (39)
x3 Plains (40)
x3 Plains (41)
x3 Plains (42)
x2 Forest (43)
x2 Forest (44)
x1 Forest (45)
x1 Forest (46)

24 lands in my Knight deck

I had single copies of every card in the Knight deck (besides the lands) except for Knight of Cliffhaven (x2) and Lionheart Maverick (x2).
So you have a complete 60 card deck then.

After going through two other 59 card decks I found a 60 card deck and the second Forest (#44) was the card I do not have and the other two decks did not have. All these decks were from the same store but not the same display.

Last night I counted the knight deck atleast twice, and came up with 59 total cards. but I just counted it 3 times and came up with 60. not sure how that happened....

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