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Black Lotus AP and fake APs.

Post by mystical_tutor » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:20 pm

Noted a couple things some might be interested in:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PSA-9-BETA-BLAC ... 58bae056f1

And from kidicarus2000:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Beta-Time-Wa ... 5416e0a767

Who lists them as AP but the fine print lets you know they have been cut from a sheet (thus the artist never saw them/or signed them).
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Post by dragsamou » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:40 am

mystical_tutor wrote:Noted a couple things some might be interested in:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PSA-9-BETA-BLAC ... 58bae056f1

And from kidicarus2000:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Beta-Time-Wa ... 5416e0a767

Who lists them as AP but the fine print lets you know they have been cut from a sheet (thus the artist never saw them/or signed them).
Cutting a Beta Sheet is a serious Sacrilege [-X There was 4 Beta sheets owned by 3 people I know, and 1 still on Ebay, let's find out, if it's one of them. Looks like one is not available for sale from one Member of this forum, I'm so not surprised...
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Post by Ertai's Familiar » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:12 pm

It's really too bad about this NFC nonsense that has started. Seems to have ruined the miscut market and now this.
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Post by dragsamou » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:16 pm

Ertai's Familiar wrote:It's really too bad about this NFC nonsense that has started. Seems to have ruined the miscut market and now this.
From Original owner, to people selling them, same boat, just about the $$$ and ruining the market with no ethics and on top the cutting job is a Disaster with a capital D #-o
EDIT: I know who's the original owner and responsible of the worst cutting ever. Selling them is as bad... I'm not surprised.
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Post by Ertai's Familiar » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:41 pm

dragsamou wrote:
Ertai's Familiar wrote:It's really too bad about this NFC nonsense that has started. Seems to have ruined the miscut market and now this.
From Original owner, to people selling them, same boat, just about the $$$ and ruining the market with no ethics and on top the cutting job is a Disaster with a capital D #-o
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Post by AbsolutAlphas » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:10 am

The Lotus is ending tonight.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191487914600?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

What's most disturbing about this auction is that the guy even miscut the Lotus the same way the real Lotuses were miscut. I'm tempted to win this auction just to keep this Lotus out of circulation. And shame on Kid Icarus for selling these.

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Post by l0qii » Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:51 am

I thought there was a thread somewhere on here explaining why there are so many uncut alpha/beta/ce white backed sheets around, but now I can't find it. Weren't they place on the top of pallets of boxes back then to protect the boxes from getting damaged? I swear I'm not making that up, but I can't seem to find reference to it anywhere.

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Post by tap4black » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:49 am

I still have my uncut Beta proof sheets, no way in hell they will ever go under the knife while I still own them!
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Post by dragsamou » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:19 am

I believe that soon a lot of Foil Exodus Test Prints Exodus will show up, as I heard from a source that one Uncut sheet went under the "Knife". [-X
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Post by dragsamou » Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:44 am

l0qii wrote:I thought there was a thread somewhere on here explaining why there are so many uncut alpha/beta/ce white backed sheets around, but now I can't find it. Weren't they place on the top of pallets of boxes back then to protect the boxes from getting damaged? I swear I'm not making that up, but I can't seem to find reference to it anywhere.

Someone please help me out.
Hi Tim

Since I collect Rarities/Oddities, I have seen very few Alpha/Beta/CE Uncut white backed sheet offered either on Ebay, MTG Shops or Private owner, less than 10. I never heard about Uncut sheet on top of pallet of boxes, and that I do remember it was not mentioned on the forum, but I might be wrong (I looked at 50 pages of topics to find it back) with no success. Where did you get that info from or is it a flash back memory that came to you suddenly while reading this topic ? In between, I find back this interesting topic:
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/forum/v ... ncut+sheet
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Post by dragsamou » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:59 pm

Seriously,I feel like pucking.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-Beta-Volcani ... 7675.l2557

Sold for 480$

Now sold by the buyer of the previous one for 1500$ (7500$ BIN)

I will name those "The Curveball Beta/CE Artist Proof cut with a butcher knife", I have kept records of All that were sold on Ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beta-Volcanic-I ... 418eb51bad

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Post by Alifromcairo » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:04 pm

Some says "business is business"... This is truly sad.
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Post by dragsamou » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:10 pm

Alifromcairo wrote:Some says "business is business"... This is truly sad.
Yes, you can do business with an ethical minimum, those were offered to different "Big sellers" in the US, one being probably "Mister Business is Business", but he refuses to buy them, I respect him for that...
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Post by AbsolutAlphas » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:46 pm

I did buy a few of these just as placeholders in my set until I can get real proofs. These are the ones I picked up:

Air Elemental
Camouflage
Demonic Hordes
Nightmare
Karma
Time Walk
Wall of Ice

Did anyone else win any?

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Post by dragsamou » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:50 pm

AbsolutAlphas wrote:I did buy a few of these just as placeholders in my set until I can get real proofs. These are the ones I picked up:

Air Elemental
Camouflage
Demonic Hordes
Nightmare
Karma
Time Walk
Wall of Ice

Did anyone else win any?
Yes, a bunch of people that didn't read properly the description, and just find out now....
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