redux: if its too good to be true...

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redux: if its too good to be true...

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Re: redux: if its too good to be true...

Post by Alien_Starfighter_Pilot » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:29 am

mwagee wrote:caveat emptor
Agreed. all feedback for the seller is as a buyer, too.

If I was moving out in a hurry I could *possibly* leave behind "junk" cards.
At the same time, the boxes look really new for being "abandoned". and I don't know of anyone that would leave a few cards on top of all the others. All in all, suspicion is greater than curiosity. Would not have put more than $50 bid in.

As a follow up thought, I wonder when the auction for the used socks and t-shirts will be listed...

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Post by mwagee » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:24 am

comes out to about 4 cents a card.
not a bad way to get rid of junk cards

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Post by Alien_Starfighter_Pilot » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:16 am

lol with what the auction is at now or with my $50 bid? hehe, did the math myself. $0.0065 per card for my bid. I'm such a d**k.

For the $1050 bid, if the seller is patient enough and has a big enough client base (say, SCG), even if all of the cards are junk the winning bidder could start showing a profit on this deal after 12 months. That is, of course, presuming all the stuff in the boxes is really ABU/AN/AQ.

If I wasn't an 8 hour drive away from Roseville, CA, I'd ask to take a look at the lot in person before bidding/paying.

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Post by hammr7 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:43 am

There was a guy who lived in Canada (Toronto if I remember correctly) who offered similar lots. The seller acted like he was clueless about MTG, but the cards on top were always the best cards in the entire lot. His first few auctions went wonderfully, and then the feedback came back bad.

I used to come across decent boxes of cards every once in a while, but the bid price is steep for a gamble. And the way the auction is described, there won't be any returns allowed if the rest of the cards are Fallen Empires and 4th Edition.

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Post by Hayden » Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:38 am

LOL

"I did not handle cards in anyway other than taking tops off boxes to take pictures"

Then how did you get the count estimate of 24k-26k?

"I know nothing about these cards..."

Riiight and that is why you created your listing with pictures in order of set release and value.

"cards on top were on top when I found boxes"

That one leaves me speachless lol

Note: Nowhere in the listing does it actually state what cards are in the boxes other than the few shown (that he did not touch) and the marker labels on the boxes. From this the poor suckers are supposed to extrapolate that all cards in the Beta box are in fact Beta, and so on.... But if they are not, you cannot put a claim of item not as described since there is no description actually given. Oh yah and "no returns accepted".

I really really hope no-one from these boards is bidding on this because it is only going to end bad. And if you are just putting in joke lowball bids, you are just hurting some other poor sap that is going to end up with this lot of junk cards for a lot of money.

Caveat Emptor!!

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Post by Alien_Starfighter_Pilot » Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:00 am

Hayden wrote:I really really hope no-one from these boards is bidding on this because it is only going to end bad.
I doubt anyone here would put a $2K bid in on this auction.

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Re: redux: if its too good to be true...

Post by mystical_tutor » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:39 pm

mwagee wrote:caveat emptor
Does anyone have the technical skill to blow up the Alpha picture and see if the corners of the under cards are alpha corners?

Not that I will be bidding in any case.... LOL

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Post by l0qii » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:55 pm

I asked if it would be possible to view the collection before bidding on it and this is the answer I got:

"I do business on ebay for a reason otherwise Id post on craigslist."

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Post by berkumps » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:11 pm

I can guess what that "reason" would be

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Re: redux: if its too good to be true...

Post by Keevy Bogsbury » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:02 am

mystical_tutor wrote:Does anyone have the technical skill to blow up the Alpha picture and see if the corners of the under cards are alpha corners?
This is what I was wondering. In my opinion, the corners of the cards in the alpha box don't look rounded enough to be alpha.

This auction has scam written all over it.

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Post by mwagee » Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:04 pm

Tha_Gunslinga wrote:Probably this scammer:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/24-000-Magic-Ga ... 500wt_1148
I could do this for a hundred bucks- repackage with sexier cards on top and resell for 3k

and as a bonus I get 6 beta creature bonds
#biwinning

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Post by mystical_tutor » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:26 pm

The very good observation that all his feedback was as a buyer. I never thought to check it that way. Thanks.

Set up a bogus account, buy a few things, put out the bait and reel them in.

Gary

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Post by Magic61983 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:42 pm

I'm not sure if anyone has already said this or not but if you look at the auction description it states.

"This is a mixed lot of 24,000-26,000 Magic the Gathering cards including boxes."

The seller doesn't state that the boxes are labels correctly or say that the cards in the boxes are from Alpha through Antiquities. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that all the cards are junk besides the 20 or so from the early sets.
BGS 9+ Alpha set 282/295 (97.29%) Avg 9.41
BGS 9.5+ Beta set 283/302 (93.71%) Avg 9.58
BGS 9.5+ Arabian set 35/92 (38.04%) Avg 9.62
BGS 9.5+ Antiquities set 82/100 (82%) Avg 9.64
BGS 9.5+ Legends set 279/310 (90.00%) Avg 9.61

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