Ice Age on double card stock?

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Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by lordsilver » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:14 am

Hey all.  I recently obtained an Ice Age Zur's Weirding.  I have misplaced it for now, so I can't hold it while I describe it, but it is doubley thick.  It doesn't bend normally and is shaped kind of weirdly around the edge's.  Normally you would think it was a fake, but it doesn't prove itself very easily (except that it's abnormal).  Also, it is a Zur's Weirding....

Any thoughts?

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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by rg » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:40 am

It vote it is a fake.
Maybe someone made a print/copy and glued it on a real magic card back (a lot of people did that some years ago in my area).
If you doubt and still hope it is real, just make a good scan and post the link.

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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by furiousavatar » Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:42 am

I used to make good fakes, that were just doubled up like that, of things that werent cmpletely worth a lot. The idea was to keep the real card in my binder.

inocent idea.
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by silver.paladin » Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:05 am

It vote it is a fake.
Maybe someone made a print/copy and glued it on a real magic card back (a lot of people did that some years ago in my area).
If you doubt and still hope it is real, just make a good scan and post the link.
I agree with rg.  Back when I was playing, I used to take copies of all my beta Moxen and Lotus' on a really high end color copier and then cut and paste them on the back of revised land.  It was close to looking like real, just a little too thick.
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by AXIOS » Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:45 pm

well, to back secretgiant up,

i have a pufferextract that is exactly the same.

xtra thich cardstock, little off color.

why the h*ll would someone fake a pufferextract?
i can make scans, but it's of no use, since you won't see the xtra thickness ;)
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by psrex » Thu Jan 13, 2005 7:54 pm

why the h*ll would someone fake a pufferextract?
I could see making just about any card if it were needed as a proxy for a deck.  Color printers are so common now and there are good card images available all over, so I could easily see someone making good looking proxies rather than writing on a land or sticking a piece of paper in a sleeve.  Currently I'm proxying a Krark-Clan Grunts and an Arcbound Stinger for one deck, which makes Zur's Weirding or Puffer Extract look quite reasonable.

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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by ende73 » Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:36 pm


I agree with rg.  Back when I was playing, I used to take copies of all my beta Moxen and Lotus' on a really high end color copier and then cut and paste them on the back of revised land.  It was close to looking like real, just a little too thick.

Hope those "Revised lands" weren't Summer  :o  [smiley=laugh.gif]

I have a friend who claims that's exactly what happened to him years ago, and he did have some Summer actually !


On Topic: I agree that the card is probably a fake proxy made by gluing the copy onto another card, I used to do that too.
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by AXIOS » Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:01 pm

trust me, my puffer isn't a fake.

it passes the bend test with absolutely no problem......can color printers do that?
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by psrex » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:12 am

trust me, my puffer isn't a fake.

it passes the bend test with absolutely no problem......can color printers do that?
It seems quite possible for an extra-thick card to exist.  Given all of the types of misprints that have surfaced I don't see any reason why there couldn't be Magic cards printed on the wrong cardstock.  Carta Mundi certainly must have a variety of cardstock for their different printing needs, or their supplier could have messed up.

As far as fakes, I just glued some paper onto a card to test things out.  The card didn't pass the bend test easily, but I think that I could with some careful work.  I made one card using a glue stick on both the card and the paper that I was affixing and it got very, very close to passing.  I got a couple little ripples in one spot (bending through the middle), but then trying a different area of the card (bending the upper portion) I was able to pass the bend test.  I have a feeling that given the proper adhesive you could pass the bend test reliably.  I'd want to try a variety of glues as well as rubber cement if I did more extensive testing.

Of course, with any of these methods you can see that there is something slightly odd with the layering of the card, and I suspect that in bright light the gloss of the card would not look proper.  Real cardstock should look fine from the edge and have the proper gloss.

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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?

Post by lordsilver » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:32 pm

THE THREAD, IT LIVES!

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