New filler?

[fvzappa]

Ironicly, for about 6 months now I have had a filler card that is not on the site. I always just assumed it was, mostly because I'm lazy. But, this is what it looks like:


As a note, all of those smudges & white spots are on the penny sleeve & hard case, they show up remarkably well on solid black. The card is actually in quite nice shape. But this one has a STAR on the bottom left, like the old school foils. The person I got it from was clueless, & told me he or a freind got it out of a pack of the Urza's block, and they were genuinely disappointed they could not play with it.

[johnstown713]

For a second there I thought it was the Black Filler I just traded you but thankfully it wasn't.  It is very cool and seems very possible since that was the time when they were starting to do foils.

[fvzappa]

I got this at the Indianapolis prerelease for Mirrodin.

[Celebrindor]

Is it just me, or can you clearly make out the difference between the black border and the blackness inside?

[victorcamp]

Here's a lightened version just so you can see it better.

[AXIOS]

if you look reaal closely at it, you can see that there is still a name on it (top left), further on, you can see very, very vaquely some of the artwork.

[AXIOS]

maybe something similar like the xtra dark laquatas?

use a magnifying glass and take a look at it and let us now ;)

[fvzappa]

Whew, it looks awfully dirty!

Anyhow, here are a few answers to some questions that have been asked of me-

NO, it does not resemble, in any way, the Laquatus OR Beast of Burden on the site (although I need them for my collection).

NO, there does not appear to be any border on it or any supposed card.

NO, I do not beleive it is doctored in any way, althogh it may be possible, I guess. I feel at this point I'm fairly good at spotting fakes, but how I got it & the look of the card shows no evidence of tampering. Remember, I got it from a kid who was genuinely disappointed he did not get a "rare" card in his pack...

No, I don't own any others, sorry, keeping it...

I would suggest those who think they are good at making fakes get out their chemicals & see what they can fabricate. I will answer any questions anyone has to the best of my ability.

[Celebrindor]

Can you clean your scanner and scan the card outside of a sleeve?  (Be careful).  I think that the phantom letters AXIOS sees are dirt, and a good scan would take care of this....

[fvzappa]

Okay, I did a bit of cleaning, & made it a 600 DPI scan instead of 400. A few specs remain, but is much improved. The stuff in the middle left is a smear from cleaning, notice you will not see it in the above scans. I simply cannot get a perfect scan, the solid black shows everything!



This is of the star area-



Hope this helps.

[Celebrindor]

much better :)

definately no partial card name

[AXIOS]

i never suggested it was a fake, i only said it might be a misprint like the dark laquatas.

i keep looking at the picture, but i still see the letters.
can you scan a zoomed in version of the part where the cards name should be?
i also keep seeing the black borders

[Celebrindor]

i never suggested it was a fake, i only said it might be a misprint like the dark laquatas.

i keep looking at the picture, but i still see the letters.
can you scan a zoomed in version of the part where the cards name should be?
i also keep seeing the black borders

I definately see the borders.  Are the 'letters' you see like two parts of a crescent?  Like a bit of the top of a 'C' and a bit of the top of an 'R' (or P, B, D, etc) a bit to the right?

[AXIOS]

I definately see the borders.  Are the 'letters' you see like two parts of a crescent?  Like a bit of the top of a 'C' and a bit of the top of an 'R' (or P, B, D, etc) a bit to the right?

sort of, i think  ???

[fvzappa]

Okay, here's the top left part too, an enlarged version. Personally, I don't see anything, esp. when I have it in person.



Anything else, just hollar.