Woc/Isbn/Barcode of Magic Rarities and Others.

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Re: Woc/Isbn/Barcode of Magic Rarities and Others.

Post by rg » Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:51 pm

Hi Ralph,
i compared all codes i posted to those you listed, so here are some errors we made ;)
Urza's Destiny Preconstructed Deck Display
WOC: 20104
no ISBN
UPC: 7 42818 20104 9
contains 12x WOC: 20103 (all preconstructed have same WOC !)
I made an mistake, should be:
Urza's Destiny French Preconstructed Deck Display
not the English one.
Tempest German Preconstructed: Call of the Kor (Ruf der Kor)
(existence confirmed!)
WOC: 21028
no ISBN
UPC: 7 42818 21028 7
You are right, should be Stronghold not Tempest.
I saw you already listed it as Stronghold. So you can clear the wrong codes by Tempest.
5th Japanese Booster Display Box
WOC: 22125
no ISBN
UPC: 4 981932 001142
You accidently listed it as potuguese but it is japanese.
Mercadian Masques Spanish Tournament Pack Display Box
WOC: 24075
no ISBN
UPC: 7 42818 24075 8
contains 12x WOC 24074
You listed as Portuguese Tounament Pack, but it is Spanish Tournament Pack Display Box
Mercadian Masques French Tournament Pack Display Box
WOC: 20113
no ISBN
UPC: 7 42818 20113 1
containes 12x WOC 20112

Mercadian Masques Japanese Tournament Pack Display Box
WOC: 22073
no ISBN
UPC: 7 42818 22073 6
containes 12x WOC 22072
You listeted them as Tournament Packs but they are  Tournament Pack Display Boxes.
Nemesis German Booster Display Box
WOC: 21086
no ISBN
UPC: 7 42818 21086 7
Mismatch within UPC, your list  UPC: 7 42818 21806 7 should be  UPC: 7 42818 21086 7
Renaissance German Booster Display Box
WOC: 21009
ISBN: 1-880992-88-4
UPC: 9 788809 928848
You accidently used the french WOC (WOC 20009), the german is WOC: 21009



According to my statement all Preconstructed Decks have the same
WOC/ISBN/UPC i can proof this for the following Sets:
Urza's Saga English
Urza's Legacy English
Urza's Destiny English
Invasion English
Invasion German
Apocalypse English
Odyssee English
Torment English
Onslaught English
Legions English

But when i compared the codes you listed to those i posted i discovered
that it is wrong for at least Mercadian Masques:
Mercadian Masques English Preconstructed: Deepwood Menace
WOC: 06061
ISBN: 1-57530-808-8
UPC: 7 42818 06061 5
Mercadian Masques English Preconstructed: Disrupter
WOC: 06060
ISBN: 1-57530-807-X
UPC: 7 42818 06060 8

(By the way the WOC you used for them is different from both i have.)


Btw. i'll send you all scans today

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Post by dragsamou » Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:12 pm

Hi Ralph.
Mirage Italian Starter Deck:
Starter Deck
WOC: 25021
ISBN: 1-57530-174-1
UPC: 9 781575 301747
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Post by flatmatt » Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:52 pm

Invasion T-Chinese Tournament Pack
WOC: 27065
No ISBN
UPC: 7 42818 27065 6

Invasion English Tournament Pack
WOC: 06122
ISBN: 1-57530-921-1
UPC: 7 42818 06122 3

Invasion English Tournament Pack Box
WOC: 06123
ISBN: 1-57530-922-X
UPC: 7 42818 06123 0

Mirrodin Bait & Bludgeon deck English
WOC: 963050000
ISBN: 0-7869-3285-6
UPC: 0 76930 96305 0

Champions of Kamigawa fat pack
WOC: 969070000
ISBN: 0-7869-3534-0
UPC: 6 53569 00133 1

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Re: Woc/Isbn/Barcode of Magic Rarities and Others.

Post by Ralph Herold » Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:21 am

All done, thank you, guys! :)

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Re: Woc/Isbn/Barcode of Magic Rarities and Others.

Post by Mr.C » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:57 am

3. Erl00 has discovered that the last digit of the long number already mentioned in 2. can differ on the same type of booster packs (his English CHK packs ended with 3 and 4)! Can you please check your boosters and share your experience on this?
It is realted to the art on the booster packs. No, really. I went over the wrappings of 3 8th Edition Portuguese Boxes and 5 Darksteel portuguese boxes, and came out with the following pattern:

8th Boosters (Portuguese):

15088909001PT - Phyrexian Plaguelord
__________2PT - Tidal Kraken
__________3PT - Two-Headed Dragon
__________4PT - Lhurgoyf
__________5PT - Blinding Angel

Darksteel Boosters (Portuguese):

1509683001PT - Shield of Kaldra
_________2PT - Arcbound Ravager
_________3PT - Eater of Days

This was a pattern observed in 3 and 5 boxes respectively, so i guess it´s correct

And i´m surprised i´m the first one to figure this out!

Oh, and a few more codes:

Apoc Precon Redemoinho (Whirpool):

WOC 23160
ISBN: 0743001877
Barcode: 742818231602

8th Edition Booster Box (Portuguese):

2108891101PT

889111900
Contains:
36x889091960

ISBN: 0743007611
Bar: 076930889114

Mirrodin Booster Box (Portuguese):

21096346001PT

963461900
Contains:
36x963451900

ISBN: 0786932937
Barcode: 076930963463

4th Edition Black Border Starter (Portuguese):

Ralph, i mixed things up... I´m almost certain the number i gave you for 4th WB Starter is actually BB... I got the WB numbers somewhere here...

Champions of Kamigawa Theme Deck Box (Portuguese):

No Display Box Code!
No ISBN!

21096909190001PT

Barcode: 5010994001544

Contains:
12x969091900

More will come...
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Post by Celebrindor » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:40 am

I just checked some empty Kamigawa boxes, and it is the same - different numbers for different images.

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Post by flatmatt » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:18 am

Odyssey Tournament Pack English
WOC 06284
ISBN 0-7430-0277-6
BARCODE 7 42818 06284 8

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Post by dragsamou » Sat Dec 04, 2004 8:44 pm

Hi Ralph.
As requested  ;)
French Portal Set.222 Cards.
German Portal Set.222 Cards.
Japanese Portal Set.?.
Simplified Chinese Set ?
Only 6 cards with additional rules text.No Raging Goblin.
Spanish Portal Set.222 Cards.
Traditional Chinese Portal Set.222 Cards.
Only 8 Hints Cards including 1 Misprint.
I will send Scans of the 7 Cards Alternate Text from:
PO1 French.
PO1 German.
PO1 Simplified Chinese.
PO1 Spanish.
PO1 T-Chinese.
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Re: Woc/Isbn/Barcode of Magic Rarities and Others.

Post by rg » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:46 am

Japanese Prophecy Preconstructed (Distress)
SKU: WOC22109
GTIN: 7 42818 22109 2

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Re: Woc/Isbn/Barcode of Magic Rarities and Others.

Post by Ralph Herold » Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:49 am

I have worked in all the codes. Thank you again for your support.

Currently, there are three oddities I have spotted which might lead to an error.  Oddly, they all occur on French products. In case you have the products in question, please validate the product codes.

1. The ISBN and GTIN of the French Renaissance booster pack and booster pack box is identical. One of them is probably wrong.

2. The GTIN of the French Champions of Kamigawa booster pack only has 12 digits. The last one is probably missing.

3. The GTIN of the French Ice Age starter deck has a different area code (digits 2 to 7) than the French Ice Age booster pack and is unusual for French products in general (it is identical with the area code of Spanish products). While it might be true that the French Ice Age boosters and starters have been produced in different locations, this looks strange enough to be investigated. Note that the odd code of the starter has been confirmed.


Mr.C: I know my praise comes a little late, but nonetheless congrats on your excellent discovery! I fear in the long run, my list will only be comprehensive, if it distinguishes between different booster pack covers, but for now, I am content with just listing one booster code, always ending with a "1".

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Post by Celebrindor » Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:00 am

B0000937:  Sealed pack of 10 'Saga foil Forests
B0000941:  Sealed pack of 10 'Saga foil Islands

Not sure if you need these or not, Ralph...

(if anyone has the other 3, I want 'em)

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Post by Ralph Herold » Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:40 am

:o :o :o :o :o They have codes, too  :o :o :o :o :o

Well, I do not have a home - for now- but you are welcome to add numbers. Everything will be preserved until it has found a place somewhere on the website.

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Re: Woc/Isbn/Barcode of Magic Rarities and Others.

Post by alotenor2 » Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:01 am

1. The ISBN and GTIN of the French Renaissance booster pack and booster pack box is identical. One of them is probably wrong.
Ralph,
I can confirm that the information is correct for both the French Renaissance booster pack and box. The numbers are identical.  The box also has the following helpful information:

1374/USA/F/04/RENAISSANCE TM-8248/D

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Re: Woc/Isbn/Barcode of Magic Rarities and Others.

Post by alotenor2 » Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:43 am

I forgot to mention that the numbers are the same for both the blue and brown French Renaissance booster packs.  This is also true of the German Renaissance packs.

This brings up some things that have been touched upon earlier in this thread.  For the sake of completeness, I would like to see the following information eventually added to the tables:

1.  Numbers of cards in booster packs and decks.
2.  Number of packs/decks in boxes.

Note that these would have to be done on a language by language basis since they are not necessarily constant for a given set.  For example, S.Chinese Portal has 10 cards in a pack and 60 packs in a box as opposed to other languages which have 15 cards (plus a hint card) in a pack and 36 packs in a box.  Portuguese Fourth Edition is another example of this phenomenom.

3.  The standard amounts of cards from each sheet in a pack/deck.  For example, 11 common, 3 uncommon, and 1 rare in a booster pack.  It may also be possible to give the standard positions of these cards in a pack or deck although there is at least one set (T.Chinese Portal) where the order seems to be almost random.

4.  Which variants exist on booster packs.  This normally means different pictures but can also mean different colors.

This list, of course, would be difficult to complete since it is even more comprehensive than Eric's monumental effort.  However, there are some interesting things known and possibly more to be discovered.  It is known that all S.Chinese Portal packs have the same picture (Charging Paladin I think).  T.Chinese Portal packs seem to have the other four pictures but not the picture shown on the S.Chinese packs.  It is known that all S.Chinese Fifth Edition packs have the picture of Nightmare on the pack.  It is presently unanswered whether T.Chinese Fifth Edition packs use that picture or not.

5.  Which cards are missing for languages that don't have the standard number of cards in a given set.  This is too much information to have in the main table but could be done with links.  For example, the number "221" in the S.Chinese Portal information box could be a link to a page giving the information (starter version Raging Goblin).

Finally, for the really impossible task, it would be nice to plate each sheet of each set and give the plate position of every card.  This information is available for certain sheets (beta rare for example).

Thank you Ralph for the great work on the Magic Sets page and thanks to everyone who has contributed information.  I think this page will become the standard resource for information on Magic Sets just as the Rarities page is the standard resource for information on Rarities.

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Re: Woc/Isbn/Barcode of Magic Rarities and Others.

Post by Erl00 » Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:37 pm

Helmlo

I'll let Ralph comment on the very interesting suggestions from Alotenor2 :)

Here's some missing data:
Italian Legends Booster Box
SL 9103
8 018527 191035 >  (yes, yes, yes, that's a >)

There's also the very useful stuf Don mentioned on Renaissance: 1326/USA/IT/O4/LEGGENDE TM-8248/A

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